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THE INCREDIBLE HULK smashes Harry's brain into undulating geek neurons firing on the possibilities ahead of us!

YES! by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:50:45 AM

I'M FINALLY FIRST by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:51:15 AM
AND I ACTUALLY READ THE ARTICLE
THIRD TOO?!!? by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:51:36 AM

AND FOURTH!?! by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:52:05 AM
HOLY GOD! I'M SEXY!
Anyway by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:52:43 AM
I can't wait until the Hulk comes out. I'll be there opening day. Thanks for the review, Harry!
Bill Bixby cameo?!? by Mullah Omar	Jun 5th, 2008 01:57:21 AM
That could be a very quiet one. If it's not just a shot of his photo attached to something else, then maybe there's a zombie attack or something and they used Bixby's skeleton.
First = twat by Lloytron	Jun 5th, 2008 01:57:38 AM
Its true
Well by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:57:46 AM
I need something more substantial, Harry. How kickass was the last fight scene, on a scale of 1 to 10?
I need a review from someone by Gwai Lo	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:10 AM
who isn't hopped up on Sour Patch Kids and Pixie Sticks.. JUST KIDDING HARRY
Question on the Tony Stark cameo by Mullah Omar	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:12 AM
By the way, how long is the scene with Stark, and does it come as a post-credits easter egg like in IRON MAN? Is there any reason to stay until after the credits finish?
cool by s0nicdeathmonkey	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:14 AM
animation
Ahh, Lloytron by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:20 AM
7th is very respectable too.
Ed Norton wasn't there... by PirateEmery	Jun 5th, 2008 02:01:29 AM
...because he had someplace better to be at.
As usual by Chicken Thunder	Jun 5th, 2008 02:02:05 AM
That was......just really - hard to read. And get. Through in - some of the parts. Of that review!
Robert Downey Jr. wasn't there... by PirateEmery	Jun 5th, 2008 02:02:17 AM
...because he was doing a suitcase full of cocaine with a hooker in Las Vegas.
I'm just waiting for Thor by mansep	Jun 5th, 2008 02:02:48 AM
that'll be the one that really gets me excited. This new Hulk looks ugly and retarded to me.... but i applaud the new Marvel Project... i stopped colllecting Marvel DVDs when Daredevil came out, but this kind of crossover mentality, building a real Marvel Universe thinking, will make the whole thing much more rewarding as a multi-faceted franchise. Kudos to Marvel.
Harry you love movies more than me by Orionsangels	Jun 5th, 2008 02:05:04 AM
I know that for a fact now. Because you'll get excited over anything. You still get gitty, like some little school boy. Me, well I'm burnt on Hollywood movies. I'm one of the hardest son of guns on the planet to impress. So your review did nothing for me. I'll tell you why. Because countless times you've exploded with joy over the crappiest movies. I'm noy buying your over the top inflated reviews anymore. I know I'll go to this and say, It was ok. WTF was Knowles talking about?
Harry says he only writes reviews for movies by Gwai Lo	Jun 5th, 2008 02:13:32 AM
he's really passionate about, hence all the positivity. But yeah, all the hyperbole is a bit much. He must write them when he's still drunk on the experience, but like many passionate flings, what you wake up to in the morning is a lot more disappointing than what you went to bed with. And then you gotta start worrying about how you can collect your things and sneak out quietly, or perhaps what you can possibly say to break things off nicely. Sometimes, like in the case Harry's Godzilla review, indiscretion leads to the clap. Harry's reviews are sloppy drunken sex, fun at the time but for the most part regretable the next day.
chicken thunder by DocDaneeka	Jun 5th, 2008 02:14:44 AM
funny shit. nicely done.
While you didn't review the film by any means Harry... by IndustryKiller!	Jun 5th, 2008 02:18:09 AM
I actually really liked this little editorial. I think it's a great statement about where Marvel films are going. i love that they seem to have stopped apologizing that these movies take place in a comic book world. The most egregious wrong Joel Schumacher ever committed was making everyone think that anything remotely comic bookey, like sonic cannons for instance, are a terrible terrible thing. When in reality its all in the context of how you present it. I long for a Spider Man film that opens with Spidey taking down the Shocker in an attempted bank robbery. It's about time they opened up this universe cinematically.
and man... Sonic Cannons aren't Comic Booky by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:25:34 AM
the military has been developing those... heat rays that can boil the skin... It's nice that it looks like Marvel is forward advancing this stuff - cuz it's WAY FUN
DONT PUT TOO MUCH FAITH IN MARVEL. by Redfive!	Jun 5th, 2008 02:26:17 AM
Just yet Harry.The first one is usually the best,then both the actor and director gets tired of living in that world after 5 years and bam...SPIDERMAN 3.
harry totally lost it, and squirted too by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2008 02:28:58 AM
yuck.
I still think the film looks shit...BUT... by Tourist	Jun 5th, 2008 02:30:22 AM
...I'm happy for it to makes millions cause I love Louis Leterrier. Yeah, I know, I suck. I don't understand what the hell that review was about. ASS KICKING and exclamation points and babbling on about Marvel. But I'm not the audience for this film anyway...I'm the dude who scratched his head during Iron Man wondering why the fuck anyone would find this entertaining, but glad to see that they at least catered to their core audience and gave them what they asked for. Even if its not much.
Oh... by Tourist	Jun 5th, 2008 02:31:10 AM
...And if the shitty looking comic book films of the summer have turned out pretty good, where are we headed with The Dark Knight, which looks fucking awesome?
And sorry to be a bastard... by Tourist	Jun 5th, 2008 02:32:45 AM
...“Did that man really turn into the HULK?” Perhaps the film is a good litmus test for North American education standards or low I.Q's in children?
FINALLY...The Marvel Universe on Screen by Jobacca	Jun 5th, 2008 02:37:21 AM
Honestly,I'm still not too jazzed for this....BUT,I love the fact that they're building up the Marvel universe with cameos and callbacks for the fans. I DID want to see Spidey swing by the Baxter Building or fight the Black Kingpin from Daredevil. THATS the shit that made the Marvel universe awesome. Sadly,DC and WB cant even settle on one actor to consistantly play Superman,much less give us a coherant DC Universe on film.
The Problem is... by Whitemouse	Jun 5th, 2008 02:38:37 AM
by Hulk 5 everyone else will be a Skrull
Though... by Whitemouse	Jun 5th, 2008 02:40:48 AM
I'm really hoping WB/DC execs are looking at this and thinking..."We should be doing things like that"...because a full on Green Lantern movie...well it needs doing. It really needs doing!
Ok Tourist you can take my place in this talkback by IndustryKiller!	Jun 5th, 2008 02:41:07 AM
Cause I actually liked the article and it got me all hyped for this flick. Sorry but a more cohesive Marvel U on film is EXACTLY what needed to happen to reinvigorate the typically horrid comic book film landscape. If the quality of the individual films holds up, which I feel it def did with Iron Man, then count me in. Ooo wait if you're me I get to be a Messi, or Mosquito March, or TomBodet type now! Here let me try this....DAMN YOO TOURIST!!!! You fucking pretentious cock!!! Get out of Your moms basement and get laid fucker!! Iron man was ENTERTAINING! You hear that!!?? ENTERTAINING!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE...
What about... by kwisatzhaderach	Jun 5th, 2008 02:45:50 AM
the score, the cinematography...the cinematic qualities of the film Harry? The direction? Everything i've seen about this film has screamed crapola from the word go. Has Louis Letterrier miraculously managed to make a good film?
I was at this screening... by brunosmash	Jun 5th, 2008 02:50:23 AM
and I thoroughly enjoyed the film. Granted, I am a huge Hulk fan, so much so that I flew out to Austin from LA with a buddy specifically to see this; nevertheless, if you had told me that I would enjoy The Incredible Hulk as much as I had enjoyed Iron Man...well Iron Man was about as perfect as an Iron Man film could be; I would have been content with a Hulk film half as good as Iron Man. This film was NOT half as good as Iron Man; it was EQUAL to or BETTER than Iron Man. Again, realize that this is coming from a lifelong Hulk guy (I'm now 31), so yeah, I am a wee bit biased. But this film did a great job representing an aspect of the Hulk that was missing from the 2003 film. Namely, his rage. This is a Hulk that is Angry, Dangerous, Powerful, and Destructive. Yet he is most definitely a hero and not one dimensional. The film was action packed, intense and suspenseful. I seriously doubt anyone who is looking for those qualities in a film will be disappointed. For the die hard TV fans; Ed Norton does a great job channeling Bill Bixby; do yourself a favor and watch it. For the die hard comic book fans; if you enjoyed Bryne's brief but wonderful stint on the Incredible Hulk in the mid eighties (#314-319); if you love the idea of the Hulk presented as an unstoppable, primal force of of nature, as rage personified, see this film. And yeah, seeing Stark show up the end was the icing in the icing on the cake. Many thanks to everyone involved the making of this film. The only bummer is having to wait till next Friday to see it again.
It's going to happen... by LordEnigma	Jun 5th, 2008 02:54:34 AM
We are going to get a crazy ass Avengers film. We are really going to have a picture -- from that set one day -- of Ed Norton, Robert Downey Jr., and the other Avenger actours/actress standing there together. We are going to see that in 2 to 3 years. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE THAT ON SCREEN. This leaves me with one silly statement; "HULK SMASH PUNY DC FILMOGRAPHY!"
I absolutely love reading Harry's reviews by kungfuhustler84	Jun 5th, 2008 02:56:25 AM
because they remind me of the really good parts of being a movie and comic book fan. He is so excited and invested in enjoying this, and it fucking rocks. I am so excited, I don't care how bias his review is or if he's just speaking totally in hyperbole. I love movies, I LOVE comics, and i am ready to see the Marvel universe unravel right in front of us. We are so fucking lucky this is happening right now.
I must admit by Fineus Fog	Jun 5th, 2008 02:56:36 AM
after Ang Lee blew his chlamydia infested load in my face in 2003 I wasnt exactly pumped for this movie. Even Iron Man seemed a bit iffy to me - until I saw it and was blown away. Harry is right whe nhe says the Execsa are the people who bring these comics to us every week/month and they are the best people for the job. Not some idiot WB suit who just wants Bryan Singer's balls in his mouth
Norton wasn't there because... by Fortunesfool	Jun 5th, 2008 03:18:31 AM
He didn't get the 'final' cut of the movie he wanted. He's having a hissy fit somewhere.
I liked Star Trek:TMP better and LOVED Lee's HULK! by TheGhostWhoLurks	Jun 5th, 2008 03:28:44 AM
However, the clips I've seen the past few weeks from Norton's Hulk have made me much more hopeful about this film. The CGI STILL looks sub-par, though... much more cartoony and less convincing than in Ang Lee's film from several years ago. And REALLY: Would it have been SO hard to give The Abomination his fin ears? I mean the guy REALLY looks like a walking pile of dinosaur poop. :P
Pond Scum Farms creating Bio-Fuel at 35 cents a gallon… by BenBraddock	Jun 5th, 2008 04:01:09 AM
Now THAT sounds interesting!
Orionsangels, you nailed it by BenBraddock	Jun 5th, 2008 04:02:40 AM
Sorry Harry, I really want to believe you but I'm hedging my bets. You've burned me way too often (latest was Indy IV).
badass, kickass and asskicking, but is most certainly not ASS by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jun 5th, 2008 04:06:22 AM
ASS YEAH!
Why did this have to come out the day after MGS4? by Shermdawg	Jun 5th, 2008 04:09:14 AM
Looks like I won't be getting much sleep next week.
Reminder : the IronMan CGI looked shit in first trailers by quantize	Jun 5th, 2008 04:11:37 AM
...and turned out to be pretty good.. which really surprised me, so im somewhat hopeful in context it looks ok in this Hulk
MARVEL to become as untouchable as Pixar? by spooky2k	Jun 5th, 2008 04:19:16 AM
I got damn hope so. And you know what both companies have in common? ...Story is king.
Sounds good Harry. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jun 5th, 2008 04:35:27 AM
I too was not too stoked about this and a fan of the Ang Lee Hulk movie. But I will see this now. Good review.
In the tradition of Harry's self-depracation... by smackfu	Jun 5th, 2008 04:45:09 AM
That Hulk animation should be changed so that Harry's Hulk is 10x fatter than him, and the beard should sprout out down to his feet like Jasper from the Simpsons. The idea that Gamma radiation would bring out Harry's best features rather than horribly backfiring on him goes against the theme...
I would commit murders to see Marvel get Spider Man back by IndustryKiller!	Jun 5th, 2008 04:47:09 AM
Now there is a property I would love for them to tackle on their own. The one thing Marvel seems to be doing with their first two outings, is show that they not only understand these superheroes as characters, but know how to compress that character into a cinematic format. I don;t think that has yet to be done with Spider Man. Macguire's Parker never gets past the uber nerd aspect of the character, which peter Parker hasn't been in like, I dunno, 35 years of the comic. Dunsts Mary Jane is just plain horrible and their relationship in those films is so trite and passionless. I think Marvel might be able to figure it out better than the imbeciles at Sony.
“Yes, that’s why Ed Norton couldn’t be here tonight… it’s too da by quentintarantado	Jun 5th, 2008 04:50:23 AM
That's a pretty cool answer, actually. It might fuck up his future, but that's a really cool answer.
Thor - Can it actually be good ? by Miyamoto_Musashi	Jun 5th, 2008 04:58:03 AM
Not to put a sour note on the Harry spreading his seed all over Marvel party, but just struggle to see how Thor can come to the big screen and be a good move not just an all action thing. Superman is a good comparrison, for me Supes gets tiring after a while when he acts all "god-like" without a care in the world, the human acts/struggles/issues make him more interesting. Will be interesting to see how they can humanise Thor, making him interesting for 100 minutes or so.
Great review, Harry. by Knuckleduster	Jun 5th, 2008 05:15:15 AM
Count my excitement official. I really hope that The Avengers happens, and that they rely on The Ultimates (at least Mark Millar's parts 1 and 2. Not Jeph Loeb's goofy Ultimates 3) as a major influence.
IndustryKiller! by Knuckleduster	Jun 5th, 2008 05:22:07 AM
"The one thing Marvel seems to be doing with their first two outings, is show that they not only understand these superheroes as characters, but know how to compress that character into a cinematic format." Well said.
wow by El Borak	Jun 5th, 2008 05:40:11 AM
sounds nice.
bless you harry, for giving me hope by El Borak	Jun 5th, 2008 05:48:46 AM
if only they could reboot ghost rider w/ the midnight sons. or just have gr team up in a movie that doesn't suck. the rider, daredevil, spidey, cap, hulk, x-men, ff, morbius, dr strange! iron man, punisher, venom, man-thing, thor, blade! silver surfer, deadpool, moon knight, elektra.
But you also loved Indy Harry by the_scream	Jun 5th, 2008 05:58:35 AM
And that movie was good but fell to pieces as soon as Marion and the CGI crap entered the scene. Yeah, you loved all those moments with Marion and Indy because of pure nostalgia not because they actually had any chemistry in this film. So, I am wondering if this is the Harry that went in with his Batman and Robin radar on or the Harry that really enjoys Rise of the Silver Surfer, one of the worst movies ever made. I think if you occasionally got stuck into a film, we could trust your opinion a bit more. I know you like to write about things you are passionate about but surely you could give us some of the old Harry who used this site to vent his frustration with the utter crap out there.
So The Incredible Hulk smashed Hulk by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jun 5th, 2008 06:10:19 AM
Okay, I'm convinced. I need to see this.
I liked Iron Man, but i didn´t love it by CuervoJones	Jun 5th, 2008 06:20:28 AM
Come on, Iron Man is just a funny movie, but not a great film to remember forever.
Never been a fan of the Hulk character... by beastie	Jun 5th, 2008 06:21:37 AM
I had respect for the 2003, but it didn't convert me. However, after all of this buzz (not just Harry's review but all of the other ones on the main page) I may have to see this. I'll wait until some of enough of the traditional press reviews come out, but it's looking like they'll like it.
CuervoJones, I agree by the_scream	Jun 5th, 2008 06:22:48 AM
You are right. The film was fun. You couldn't bitch too much about it because it was really funny. But it was hardly as memorable as Batman Begins or Spiderman 2. Those films blew my socks off.
that would be fucking cool if this film is good by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2008 06:44:07 AM
I would view it as an added bonus to the summer since I was a bit unsure with this one. And if they are fitting into the Marvel universe, well that's fucktastically great.
So Speed Racer by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 06:59:06 AM
Is still the best film of the summer?
I was a bit reluctant to go. by hallmitchell	Jun 5th, 2008 07:07:38 AM
Now I'm going. I trust Harry. Not enough to see INdiana Jones though. By the way. That intial teaser was so crap they were always going to have an uphill fight after that and it sounds like they didn't need to.
why not a SHIELD movie? by j2talk	Jun 5th, 2008 07:09:13 AM
so has more film projects lined up, why not a SHIELD movie? The GI JOE Film stills showed that Blackbody suits can work...SHIELD could be done as a modern spy film ala Casino Royale-Great Film, just (Sorry People)-Craig isnt Bond
Harry has once again succeeded... by Jamador79	Jun 5th, 2008 07:18:40 AM
in making me picture him cumming. Please calm down, Harry.
and why do you say fuck so much by Jamador79	Jun 5th, 2008 07:20:25 AM
not that i'm offended, but i think we can get that you are (overly) enthusiastic without everything being fan-fucking-tastic, fucking ubergeekjizzbomb, and the fucking hulk is fucking incredible when he fucking smashes the fuck out of fucks
I just hope that Bill Bixby cameo by RaveX	Jun 5th, 2008 07:22:49 AM
isn't as lame as Darren McGavin's was in the pilot for the new (terrible) night stlaker.
So once again.... by Gabba-UK	Jun 5th, 2008 07:25:23 AM
we await Moriarty's, Quint's, Capone's and Herc's reviews. I'm glad you liked it Harry, I really am, but you do seem to like everything at the moment. But at least I suspect that the reason for that is that your life going so well at the moment. So I can't really blame you. But you do give me hope for this film.
When is Nathan Jones by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 07:27:01 AM
Going to sign on to be Thor?
Harry, I didn't get to ask my question! by JaviT	Jun 5th, 2008 07:41:09 AM
What happened to Avi Arad's comments about the grey Hulk being in the movie, too? Are we gonna see all the deleted stuff on dvd? Personally, I would love a dvd with the theatrical cut and the Norton cut...
Well, that's good I guess by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 5th, 2008 07:43:46 AM
I could use a good Hulk movie. But I can't say I'm familiar enough with the character to know who The Leader is. I'm gonna see this, but I'm hardly as excited about it as I was for new spidey installments, or Indy Jones, or Rambo or Rocky 6. But yeah, I'll catch it.
DEATHLOK by fivezero	Jun 5th, 2008 07:46:22 AM
there's supposed to be a Deathlok movie in the works, but i want a 1974 period Deathlok movie! that would just be TOO funny.
Harry, is the Lonely Man piano theme in the movie? by jack-torrance	Jun 5th, 2008 07:49:16 AM

Ben Braddock and Being Burned by Doctor Cosmic	Jun 5th, 2008 07:58:21 AM
Yeah, I gotta agree with Ben here, Har. I mean, come the fuck on. We're supposed to believe you, you, who are very likely receiving sexual favors from male executives to post positive "reviews?" Please. Nah, I'm kiddin.' You're a great kid, Har. Doc
Sounds like TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION!!! by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 5th, 2008 08:04:12 AM
Does it?
Doc Samson = James Rhodes? by SpyGuy	Jun 5th, 2008 08:07:57 AM
Next time, baby.
Do I need to stay after the credits? by mrfan	Jun 5th, 2008 08:10:20 AM
Just curious if there is a short scene following the credits?
Yeah Harry by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 08:11:34 AM
After reading this review over your Panda review. It seems like you didn't like the Panda movie that much. That are now you are going to start riding some high horse about fat people?
Spidey/X-men vs Avengers by sean bean	Jun 5th, 2008 08:15:17 AM
If we're talking a film universe fight, the Avengers would walk it. Hulk or Thor would win by themselves. Tony Stark could take out most of them with his computer targeting thing. Add Cap's tactical nous and it's too one-sided. There's no heavy hitters in the (movie) X-men. Phoenix, possibly, but she's a flake. Even Magneto wouldn't level the odds. Maybe Storm could distract Hulk by disrobing. That's their best chance of success and definitely a movie I would pay to see.
the 2003 film by Sithdan	Jun 5th, 2008 08:18:49 AM
After that narcolepsy-inducer, I don't know if I want to waste my hard-earned money on another Hulk film. Most people will agree. I smell a wait-for-DVD, don't you?
Thor by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2008 08:25:25 AM
I'd cast Josh Holloway. He'd have to lose his Sawyer accent, of course, but if they go the Ultimates route, I'd totally buy him as that character.
Err.... by DocPazuzu	Jun 5th, 2008 08:25:49 AM
...was there actually a review in there somewhere?
Thor by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 08:27:14 AM
Nathan Jones.
Meh by ScottinDC	Jun 5th, 2008 08:31:35 AM
I'll go see this since Marvel is doing such a terrific job right now BUT...I have trouble believing any of Harry's reviews at the moment, after he spent so much time (and tears) defending the new Indy flick which was a hot rancid steaming pile that served to only damage the great name of Indiana Jones. And Harry, how about lowering the references of you ejaculating and using the F bomb all the time? I don't think it's possible to offend me..but I do get tired of you breaking words in half just to put 'fuck' in the middle of it.
so excited for this... looks awesome by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG	Jun 5th, 2008 08:32:20 AM
iron man and this make the x men movies look like the shit that they are...
too bad this wasnt the first incredible hulk film by cheifchirpa3000	Jun 5th, 2008 08:38:38 AM
then it woud do much better at the b.o. Ironmans sucess might help it a little but most people are gonna say "they made a sequel to the hulk? i dunnooooo" i thought the first hulk was enjoyable. but in all due respect the whole idea of the hulk is a one trick pony, could be kinda boring and redundant. we shall see.
AT LAST!!! NOT A DREAM!!! NOT A TRICK!!! by JeremiahTheProphet	Jun 5th, 2008 08:39:29 AM
The MARVEL UNIVERSE is coming your cinematic way, True Believers! Just remember to say to Hollywood "Make mine a Marvel!" Ex-Fucking-Celsior!
Sounds promising... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jun 5th, 2008 08:44:57 AM
...but I think that it is a stretch to compare the film with STAR TREK 2 (even slightly) while still saying that Ang Lee's HULK was a good film. I literally HATED Ang Lee's film -- almost as much as I hated SUPERMAN IV. Yep, it was that bad for me. I am glad that the studio had the balls to reject pretty much everything (including the actors) from Ang Lee's film and to quickly reboot -- while the bad memories are still fresh. I will be watching this one with anticipation! Thanks, Harry!
Harry, your opinion, please. by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 08:47:22 AM
what happens when all these leads end up in the same movie and MARVEL can't afford to pay them all? Norton, Downey Jr, Sam Jackson, and whoever big name dudes they get to play Cap, Thor, and all these other parts. Thats like the cast of Oceans 11, in a comic movie. Thats a lot of money being dropped on actors. Will the effects be shorted? will the story, because you have to give each of them equal screen time? believe me, i'm as stoked as anyone (well, maybe not as stoked as Harry) to see a fleshed out, cohesive MARVEL U on film, but thinking about the logistics of it all kind of scares me.
fuck you, Harry! by bluebottle	Jun 5th, 2008 08:58:36 AM
you got me excited! and you're absolutely right - i've been waiting my whole life for a marvel cinematic universe... MY WHOLE LIFE!!! (god, i suck)
Did Harry's nephew crap his pants this time? by rev_skarekroe	Jun 5th, 2008 08:59:50 AM
That's my meter for a quality Hulk film.
Thor by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 09:05:03 AM
seems impossible to do in this "real world" MARVEL U they are setting up. i will be shocked and amazed if they actually try to include him in an Avengers film.
They need to reboot Fantastic Four! by DirkBelig	Jun 5th, 2008 09:11:30 AM
Scrap the whole cast (except maybe Chris Evans), make the Thing CGI (think Davy Jones quality), cast a real blonde as Sue (Elisha Cuthbert looks like Kirby drew her and can actually act), and TAKE IT SERIOUSLY and redeem the franchise. Could we possibly take Ioan Gruffudd's - remember when Hollywood used to give stars names we could spell and pronounce - disco king Reed Richards seriously as Tony Stark's brilliant-but-stupid right hand if they were to do "Civil War"? Exactly!
Correct me if I'm wrong by Lost Jarv	Jun 5th, 2008 09:17:07 AM
but didn't pretty much the whole world hate Civil War?
where's Frankie to defend FF? by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2008 09:29:15 AM
SoylentMean, correction, the summer is for fun AND good movies. I hope this one qualifies for that.
So since Marvel is taking control of things by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 09:36:04 AM
Are they doing the upcoming Wolverine: Origins movie? Are will that movie end up looking terrible? Because its going to have Deadpool in it who is my fav marvel character.
I read that Liv Tyler's nude scenes by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 5th, 2008 09:38:30 AM
are soft and erotic without being prurient, artistic and sapphoric without being crass, and that her beaver shots and silohuetted nipplage are submlime.
Probably my favorite review you've done man by dannyocean	Jun 5th, 2008 09:39:54 AM
And I read them all. Sadly. Sigh. The bit with the nephew is what makes this review work. All of your reviews must now reference your nephew's reaction to them. Excelsior!
I heard they are "enlightening and tasteful" by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2008 09:40:15 AM
And the crew handled them with due care and professionalism. Liv felt very comfortable and natural in them.
Kid's say the darndest things.... by HitchCock'n'Balz	Jun 5th, 2008 09:42:19 AM
But I don't give a shit if a fucking 7 year old thinks a man really turned into the hulk...he most likely still believes in the tooth fairy and Santy Claus..."is Will Ferrel really an Elf"....same stupidity....and in no way a reason for me to go see this...I will be seeing it..love me some hulk....but do we really need to be force fed the idea that because children are gullible and easily mislead that this is a good film? Where is the review of the movie in all that sentimental garbage?
Ang Lee's Hulk Vs. Star Trek: The Motion Picture by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 09:42:43 AM
I don't see the comparison. I liked the first Star Trek movie, and grew to love it over time. It's a great, weird frickin' movie. Love it. I didn't like Ang Lee's Hulk the first time I saw it. Now, after repeated viewings, I like it even less. Sorry, the comparison doesn't work for me. Ang Lee's Hulk was, at best, a mediocre film, and at worse, a mess. I'd compare it more to that Captain America film from the late 80s, early 90s, only with better cinematography and more CGI. Nothing against the folks who like Ang Lee's movie, but I just don't see a comparison to Star Trek: The Motion picture. Which I can still watch and enjoy. I could never see Ang Lee's Hulk again. Or the Ice Storm. Or Brokeback Mountain. Or almost anything Ang Lee has done, except for Crouching Tiger, and be perfectly happy.
Series7 by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 09:43:50 AM
MARVEL isn't doing the Wolverine movie. i think its FOX. and with all the characters they are shoving into it as of now, don't expect to see your favorite mercenary done justice. but i could be wrong. i hope i'm wrong.
Anchorite: 10% Pond Scum by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 09:51:01 AM
The problem is not consuming 10% of Arizona to produce bio-fuels with pondscum, it's the fantasy that we are anywhere near the technology to have that generate .25 cent-per-gallon gasoline. Try $20 per gallon. Or $30 per gallon. Drilling off the gulf and ANWAR would make for a good supply of domestic oil, and oil to sell to other markets to help burst the insanely over-inflated oil futures market. It would lower the price of oil and gas (as would building more refineries, but that has so far improved impossible, thanks to the EPA and environmental groups filing lawsuits any time an energy company attempts to open a new refinery). But it ain't going to happen--no drilling in ANWAR, no new refineries, no reduction of regional gasoline formulations. So save your pennies so you can pay $25 bucks a gallon for gas and $15 bucks for an ear of corn . . . and about $25 a pound for every sort of meat from livestock fed with corn . . . and then the EPA will sue the state of Arizona for the environmental destruction caused by their pondscum farms. The top marginal tax-rate will be 110%, Universal Health Care will keep us waiting for a check-up for only three to four years, all major American businesses will relocate to the United Arab Emirates or China, and the US will finally be a socialist utopia. And we won't have to worry about gas prices, because the internal combustion engine will have been outlawed. Hmm. I smell a script, here.
This will suck, Ang's was perfect. by dr sauch	Jun 5th, 2008 09:52:41 AM

why are will still using ..... by j2talk	Jun 5th, 2008 10:01:08 AM
kevinwillis.net the bigger issue is WHY are we stilling using the internal combustion engine...hell maybe it SHOULD be outlawed....a hundred yrs later and there isnt an alternative engine? Come on
hey anchorite by j2talk	Jun 5th, 2008 10:04:31 AM
anchorite the ONLY reason "Alaskans want to have increased oil production in their state. They want us to drill in ANWR" is that EVER resident gets a nice bit of $$$$ based on the oil pumped out of the state....
kevinwillis.net by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 10:08:55 AM
The ice storm is quality film and has been recived well by a variety of people. I guess you have a point about Harry's comparison between Hulk and ST1. ST1 was wayyy better. oh yes, also you are what I call an oil bigot. Defending something that gives your children lung cancer and sends us to war. Oil is the past...and if your into that sort of thing, ride a fucking bike and move close to work. If you think its all about pond scum, think again... http://www.theaircar.com/ this is just a start to end our reliance on oil. A true patriot sees the country's need to stay strong internally, not subsrcibe to ideas of past that make us week. We are week when we are at war. The corporations who dictate the law of the land have too much at stake to change. They are dinosaurs, just like you.
j2talk by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 10:11:43 AM
dat wat i be talkin bout mon..a new engine!
Harry's younger than me... by crankyoldguy	Jun 5th, 2008 10:26:29 AM
And I'm supposed to be old and craky...but not about this. The more I see in trailers, the more I'm looking forward to it; so is my little boy (though I'm concerned the big=screen hulking might be too much for him as there's a big difference between watching videos such as a scary Davy Jones in Pirates at hom and in a dark theater, even if dad and mom are with you). But I'm here to see it's okay to be a geek at your half-century mark and all the sub-intellectual-wanna-be ranters here stay out of our way, 'cause Hulk smash!
If there is a sequel then bring on the Leader. by mrfan	Jun 5th, 2008 10:28:53 AM
Have him battle the Hulk with robots and all sorts of crazy devices. That would be my choice.
Okay, totally off-topic, but... by Supernatural_Canary	Jun 5th, 2008 10:30:54 AM
Harry desperately needs an editor. It's obvious that he loved the movie, but most of that review was grammatically incomprehensible, which made reading it a real chore. (Forgive the stupid nit-picking. But as someone who works in publishing and who reads manuscripts all day long, I couldn't leave it unsaid.) Oh, and while I was not going to bother seeing this movie, as of now I probably will. My expectations are low, but, in my opinion, that's usually a good posture to take going into any movie (unless one is able to forego all expectations, which is ideal, but which is also very difficult). (Harry: Should you desire editorial direction, I’m willing to offer it. No charge!)
Jesus is younger than you by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 10:35:05 AM
you cranky old fart!
That wasn't a review by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 10:35:13 AM
You suck you fat bastard!
Canary, it's not nitpicking to say Harry needs an editor by Laserhead	Jun 5th, 2008 10:40:28 AM
His reviews are written with a below-preschool level of literacy, and are often grammatically incomprehensible. I'm actually looking forward to the Hulk now, but yeah, seems like each new review by Harry is harder and harder to read through... it's babble.
Sounds Good. Love your animation by CrichtonAstronut	Jun 5th, 2008 10:45:58 AM

Has Harry ever read a Hulk comic book??? by only1	Jun 5th, 2008 10:48:08 AM
His points of reference are all the TV show. No offense, Harry. I love the site, but lets call a spade a spade... the TV show was awesome... for the 70's. there's a reason I haven't picked up the dvd's... because, in truth, the tv show SUCKED! You heard me! Sure, when I was 5 I loved the freaking show... but I was 5! What the fuck does a 5 year old know about entertainment??? I don't like that the move references the show, but it's not deterring me from going to see it. My fiancee even wants to see it... she's a big Edward Norton fan (he's from our area). She was glad I dragged her to Iron Man so I'm thinking she'll like this.
Harry... by -guyinthebackrow	Jun 5th, 2008 10:56:20 AM
I can believe this review, but not not the one for the PANDA movie.
only1 by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 5th, 2008 10:56:46 AM
You raise a good point. I loved the show on Friday nights. I was like nine or ten at the time. But yeah, in hindsight, the show was weak. David Banner (as I believe he was called--not Bruce) would simply wander around from one place to the next, taking odd jobs and meeting new (but fleeting) friends and getting wrapped up in their troubles. And there were typically only two hulk-outs with Lou Ferrigno. A mild one in the middle of the show, and a bigger one at the end, where perhaps Lou (as the Hulk) would throw a tire in slow motion at the bad guy, then he'd run off (in slow mo) and you'd see David at the end going wandering again.
Harry...I Want To Believe...but...... by riddleman1674	Jun 5th, 2008 11:03:51 AM
The kudos you gave to that trainwreck that was Indiana Jones, I dunno. Though I agree with you on Iron Man and the direction they're taking with thier characters now, so hopefully Marvel redemption is at hand! Now give em a few years and if they stay on track, we need to wipe our asses with those unspeakable Daredevil & Fantastic Four movies and revamp them as well. Let's hope Norton's Hulk kicks ass not only at the box office but up in the minds of those oblivious "dollar sign beer goggle" corporate morons. Can't wait for June 13th! Nuff said.....
Harry's HULK comic reading and collection by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 11:06:53 AM
I'm staring at my issue of HULK 1. I also have a complete run of the TALES TO ASTONISH - as well as Hulk's early run in AVENGERS. This film takes its Bruce Banner clues from the TV show though - and Bixby's David Banner was a pretty great take on the character. THE HULK on the show was limited to minor acts of incredible-ness. That's what has improved greatly here. THE HULK isn't beating up regular thugs.... or just military men with guns. But science fiction weaponry and another monster. That's what is coming out of the books - and that's what is cool. And having THE LEADER lining up next is the coolest... sadly, I fear I only know of the LEADER from the TV show cuz we all know how often he appeared with monsters and robots and crazy tech. Right? right.
"What about SPIDER-MAN?" by kayleefan	Jun 5th, 2008 11:23:33 AM
"What about SPIDER-MAN? Well – SPIDER-MAN did a good job of establishing the SPIDER-MAN UNIVERSE – you never saw Spidey at the Baxter building? Matt Murdoch didn’t walk by. It stayed within the Spidey-specific universe." The Punisher did a (very) brief cameo at the end of Spider-Man 2.
What is a "Marvel Cinematic Universe"... by zyuray2	Jun 5th, 2008 11:31:46 AM
... without Spider-Man and the X-Men? It's an "Avengers Cinematic Universe". Which is cool, but not as exciting.
Harry, are you saying Reinstein... by AnakinsDiapers	Jun 5th, 2008 11:32:52 AM
...is alive? If that's what you're saying then that is complete ass. The entire point to the mystique of Captain America is that he's one of a kind because the super sooldier formula died with its' creator. Sure, there have been attempts to recreate it to varying degrees of success, but the original is always the best. I'm starting to worry here. Between this and the impenetrable one of a kind shield turning up half constructed in Tony Starks lab...i'm getting nervous.
Lest hope Marvel gets enough power to get Xmen & F4 from FOX! by The Founder	Jun 5th, 2008 11:34:35 AM
God I hope they can. FOX has run those franchises into the ground.
Sounds Great Harry, but I've been duped by you before. by The Founder	Jun 5th, 2008 11:37:14 AM
I believe Harry's heart and passion is well placed, but I seen this story before where harry sings high praise to a film and it's a let down. It sounds like his geekness may be over playing the film, butI'm sure it'll turn out fine.
Will the Hulk make money though???? by The Founder	Jun 5th, 2008 11:39:04 AM
This is the big question. Hulk isn't exactly in a safe release time frame to clear a good chunk of box office dollars with other films that are coming out. Should moved Hulk to August.
Punisher Cameo in Spider-man 2?!?! by DKT	Jun 5th, 2008 11:39:47 AM
What? Where?
About the X-Men Movies by DKT	Jun 5th, 2008 11:41:49 AM
The first two kicked ass. It'd be interesting to see what Marvel would do with them if they re-acquired the film rights, but I don't trust Marvel completely yet. Joey Q. did a lot of good things early on as an editor there (Bendis' Daredevil, Morrison's New X-Men), but these days, he has a lot more to answer for.
kayleefan by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 11:43:49 AM
I'm not sure if that Thomas Jane part in SM2 can be considered a Punisher cameo.
g-ride9000: The Ice Storm by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 11:51:36 AM
Just my opinion. I know it was well received, I just found it a cliche wrapped in a melodrama inside a yawn. But I'm probably the only person who thought Heath Ledger's performance in Brokeback Mountain was terrible. Still, ST1 is the awesome, and I think it holds up well. And that Klingon theme! Man, I loved the score. As far as being an oil bigot, not all. I'm a reality check. A: The only thing that's going to give us cheap gas is tapping our own supply and building refineries. The best thing for domestic electricity production, price wise, is expanding nuclear (something that has apparently worked well in much of Europe) and tapping our currently untappable natural gas supplies. Processes for getting energy out of other sources (like Harry's pondscum) are freighted with costs, not to mention litigation and political opponents in the environmental movement. I'm all for alternative energies (including nuclear), and especially solar--if we can get our capture rates significantly higher, it'll be a great source of energy. I like the idea of flywheels and energy recapture in automobiles and elsewhere, I own a GM hybrid (a Saturn VUE--actually a hybrid-assist with marginally better gas mileage, but still it's a hybrid). If we can get lots of cheap energy without oil (or natural gas, or nuclear), I'm all for it. I just don't see that happening. I also don't see us bringing any more nuclear plants online, or tapping our domestic oil supplies any time soon, so I'm just expecting prices to go up-up-up, aside from a potential market correction in the oil futures market. We shall see.
Will the Hulk Make Money? by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 11:53:12 AM
Does the pope shit in the woods? Yes, it'll make money. It's getting good word of mouth, decent marketing, on the heels of Iron Man . . . it'll make bank. Might not perform at Iron Man's level, but, even so, it'll turn a tidy profit.
Harry, if we had universal healthcare... by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 11:54:38 AM
you probably would've been dead already. Truth. OOOOORRRRR you'd be on the news bitchin' and moanin' about how the universal healthcare system has failed and you couldn't receive the proper treatment in a timely fashion. Yeah, man. Throw in some stupid political bullshit. Way to ruin your review (besides the poor grammar, syntax, and punctuation). Screw you. I shouldn't have to pay for your lap-band surgery. Personal responsibility, folks. That's all I'm asking for.
thebearovingian by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 11:57:45 AM
and what happens when you can't pay for your mom's chemotherapy, dickhead?
DKT by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 12:07:34 PM
Quote: "The Punisher" has a small cameo in Spider-Man 2. At the end when Mary Jane is running through the park with her wedding dress on, Thomas Jane can be seen glancing at her while she runs past. (He is not in any kind of costume, but it is Jane nonetheless.)
Marvel can suck D.C's big one by WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR	Jun 5th, 2008 12:17:03 PM
A joined-up universe my ass - DC got there first. HELLO! THEY MENTIONED METROPOLIS IN BATMAN FOREVER!!!
Nuclear fusion by Mattyboy122	Jun 5th, 2008 12:17:24 PM
Is the way of the future. We just need to focus more time and money on perfecting it and we'll have fuel to last us longer than our friggin' sun will be around. Anyway, as far as this flick and the Marvel universe goes, one thing that annoyed me about Iron Man was that it was that it was a tease for other flicks (and whoever brought up the logistics of making an Avengers flick is on the right track in wondering how they can even pull off a quality Avengers film). The bit with Sam Jackson at the end of Iron Man was fine, but I was annoyed to have paid for a film that, in its final moments, basically just teased us for more. Oh well.
g-ride.... by crankyoldguy	Jun 5th, 2008 12:21:10 PM
just another wussy boy on AICN....My five-and-half year-old could take you...
kevinwillis.net by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 12:26:16 PM
Oh praise Allah someone else who doesn't like Ang Lee's work. I think for the most part he is very boring and doesn't get good performences out of his actors. Seriously the Ice Storm felt like people were just reading lines on a page, like they had no idea what was going on. As for Star Trek 1, I may have seen them all back in the day but I really only remember 4 and 6. So I went out and rented them all and 1 was pretty amazing. I had been watching the show on TV Land late at night (I was looking for a job and stay up all night) and I thought the movie fit in well with the show. Though it wasn't an action, but there were episodes that were not about action they were mind games played on the crew and thats what ST1 was. Plus the movie holds up very well.
My son just asked me by Magnum Opus	Jun 5th, 2008 12:33:47 PM
...why is Jabba the Hut wearing a suit? So I slapped the shit out of him and told him those were Harry's wedding photos. Fucking retarded children, amirite?
I'll wait for some reviews... by Sledge Hammer	Jun 5th, 2008 12:37:56 PM
...from a site that didn't get a free invite to the editing suite, and a free screening set up in Texas. Call me cynical but I ain't falling for no Hulk sized banana in the tailpipe...
WAY too over enthusiastic and nerdy review by jamazio	Jun 5th, 2008 12:38:40 PM
I couldn't read it all, it was unbearable. Just a complete geek freak out. Surely, there must be pros and cons, as with most (respectable) reviewer, but this review was utter shite. Harry, calm down and take a breather before you post your next review. I could almost smell the spunk stains.
who knew by ArcadianDS	Jun 5th, 2008 12:45:03 PM
that the secret to a movie's success lay in its need to convince a small child that it was real. More fanfictastic ravings herein, and nothing of substance. 300+ words to tell us that there's a vial in the movie that contains 'super soldier serum' and suddenly we're all supposed to forget that Spiderman 3 sucked, and the Fantastic Four wasn't.
I'm excited! by Johnno	Jun 5th, 2008 12:50:13 PM
They need to do the same for Spider-Man and the Punisher, or just put the Punisher in a Spidey film... Spidey had a stint on the Avengers too at some point. I wonder if FOX will also go along with this for future X-Men or spin-offs...
Bravo Harry by sweeneydave	Jun 5th, 2008 12:54:01 PM
The trailers never did it for me. But for once I'm flippin' ecstatic for this movie! I LIVE for seeing movies with my 7 year old boy and the story of your nephew brought tears to my eyes. I can't WAIT!
GREEN POOP!!! by Rustle	Jun 5th, 2008 12:56:06 PM
I too was at the screening last night.. Thanks for another great screening. I especially liked the green chips and salsa.. That is until I went to the Bathroom this morning.. It made for some disgusting Gamma Green Poop..
Come to think of it.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 12:57:13 PM
Is the new Punisher movie going to be part of this new and improved Marvel universe? Does anyone know?
why cant harry write a review without sexual references by JimmyJoe RedSky	Jun 5th, 2008 12:59:23 PM

rev_skarekroe, I couldn't help but wonder, too by blackhole4140	Jun 5th, 2008 12:59:36 PM
If Harry's nephew shit his pants this time as well. If I recall, Harry didn't change the kid's diaper, he just let him sit in it for the rest of the original Hulk. I guess the Incredible Hulk was better for both of them this time around.
So is this better or worse than Indy 4? by wash	Jun 5th, 2008 01:02:18 PM
Because Indy 4 was pretty weak.
Totally off topic... by STLost	Jun 5th, 2008 01:07:22 PM
but where is Father Geek? I remember he used to write a bit on the site, and now that I think about it, I haven't seen much from him on here. Or have I just not been looking in the right places?
blackhole4140 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:08:28 PM
I just gotta know. What is this crapping the pants reference?
But didn't Harry also like Indy 4 by rutan07	Jun 5th, 2008 01:13:13 PM
Not really sure if anyone else has said this but Harry also liked the new Indiana Jones so his reviews may be suspect from now until forever. But I do hope Hulk is good.
"and I think I came a little" by Trazadone	Jun 5th, 2008 01:14:36 PM
That's just gross dude.
Hahahah i just read this on Box office guru by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 01:18:56 PM
Has nothing to do with Hulk but its funny. Last weekend, the 179 years of life experience of Parker-Cattrall-Davis-Nixon pulled an upset victory over the 190 years of Ford-Spielberg-Lucas as it was truly no country for old men.
Ghost of Señor Nixon by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:25:58 PM
Fuck you, dude. The EPA? OSHA? The EOC? Price controls? What the hell we're you thinking? You started us down this road with your big government administration (not to mention, your brilliant move in creating the EPA) so don't take it out on me. In reality, I imagine the market will intervene/adjust/correct before we're paying $15 bucks a gallon for gasoline--I believe I mentioned a likely market correction in the oil futures market. On the other hand, without tapping our own supplies and without building new domestic refineries, there's not too many places for the price to move but up. Best solution will be to work at home, and live really close to a movie theater. Subscribe to Netflix. Eat things that don't depend on corn or other bio-fuel sources for their production.
Herb West... by blackhole4140	Jun 5th, 2008 01:26:09 PM
Harry took his nephew to the original Hulk when the kid was still in diapers. Harry noted in his review that the kid soiled himself. Pretty infamous stuff.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:28:10 PM
It wasn't that bad, it was just weak. Personally, knowing what I know now, I would wait for the DVD.
Is this even a review of the movie? by performingmonkey	Jun 5th, 2008 01:30:27 PM
Whatever, I'm seeing it, there's no doubt about that! Iron Man was a hell of a lot better than it had any right to be.
Series7: I enjoyed Crouching Tiger by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:35:20 PM
And Sense and Sensibility was a perfectly good Jane Austen adaptation. I've never seen Eat Drink Man Woman . . . but Ang Lee has never won me over. Nothing about the new Hulk reboot has made me worry too much, and references to the series seem entirely appropriate to me. I guess I'll know when I see it, but I'm definitely looking forward to a regular (super-soldier) guy battling it out with the Hulk. I like that idea more than Abomination, or Hulk battle electricity, a lake, and giant poodles. Star Trek: The Motion Picture is still a great movie. I really enjoyed Wrath of Kahn, was never a big fan of the others . . . but I still love the first film. Persis Khambatta as Lt. Ilia (and then the voice of V'ger). The sound effects of the cloud (and the groovy fx). Spock suiting up to mind-meld with V'ger. Finally reaching the heart of the cloud, only to find out it was one of our satellites . . . plus, the set and the costumes. Was never quite happy about how they handled the transporter fx in ST1, but a mild, overly-geeky criticism. And Shatner wasn't fat yet. A great movie.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:36:52 PM
Good call on that sack of shit.
Ang Lee = George Lucas by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:37:49 PM
BTW, I think Heath Ledger was an incredible actor. It took a fine director like Ang Lee to get what I consider a rotten, almost unbearable performance out of him in Brokeback Mountain. Only George Lucas can get worse performances out of great actors.
Was Indy 4 Really That Bad? by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:41:23 PM
The answer is yes and no. I think it's on the same level as The Last Crusade. Imperfect, but enjoyable as long as you don't expect it to live up to the experience of seeing Raiders (or, IMHO, Temple of Doom). All the things you've heard are true, however, so if they sound bad, I'd suggest you stay away. The monkeys were frickin' weird and just didn't work, but . . . the alien MacGuffin was okay, but how it was resolved was--ah, less than perfect. You can probably wait for DVD. Unless, like Harry (and me), you really love Indy and have to see it no matter what, and give even the stupid shit a pass cuz it's a new Indy movie.
Gatsby by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 01:43:24 PM
What happens when you can't pay for food or shelter or gas because you're being taxed to death paying for said universal healthcare, FRIEND? I'm sorry for whatever happened to your mom (or someone's mom you know or someone's mom you saw/read about in a news piece or article). Yes, life sucks sometimes. Apparently you have no faith in your fellow man's spirit of giving and thus seek the government to force it upon them.
Holy dear fuck by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:45:03 PM
Does anyone talk about movies on the movie talkbacks anymore? Christ.
kevinwillis.net the reason you find his performance by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 01:45:40 PM
weak is because you are a homophobic prick. You can't sit a dog down to watch a movie about cats...he'll just bark thought the whole movie. For the record, his performance was pretty good. kevinwillis.net, do you have some info on the intricacies of gay relationships? fill us in.
What happens when Norton refuses '2'?? by wilsonfisk89	Jun 5th, 2008 01:47:43 PM
Re-Re-Casting? 3 Banners in five years?
Memories-Of-Mundane by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 01:50:09 PM
Tell us what else stupid audiences do or do not deserve. Tell us what it would be like, if Mundane ruled the world!!
Harry, did you ask about Norton, or what? by Arch_Stanton	Jun 5th, 2008 01:50:27 PM
Do we know why he's not promoting the flick? (If it's even true that he's not)
Indy 4 is like Search for Spock by zooch	Jun 5th, 2008 01:51:59 PM
Not the best in the series, but a good Star Trek film if you can stomach the ridiculous-ness of the plot, just like Indy 4. Definently seeing the HULK now!
Marvel Universe by SUPERJIM	Jun 5th, 2008 01:52:16 PM
I love Harry's enthusiasm towards the realisation of this, and totally agree it would be great and definitely should be done and done well. However, how much do you want to bet they will fuck it up? You will get one up-their-own-arse director refusing to take on a certain style of some small detail from another director and it will all fall to pieces it a lot of different ways. I mean look at something like Harry Potter. They are fuckin sequels and they still change an unbelievable amount of tiny things from one to the next for no apparent reason. Things that there was nothing with in the first place and you only actually notice they are there because they change them. I don't ask for them to all use the same style, the movies are much better because they don't but why fuck with the smallest details which take you out of the film? I hope I am wrong.
Does anyone know.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:55:05 PM
Is the new Punisher movie going to be part of this new and improved Marvel universe? Anyone?
Herb West - It's Harry's fault. by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 01:55:38 PM
He doesn't review movies worth shit and then he throws in political potshots for good measure.
thebearovingian by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:58:33 PM
Yeah, I know. Sometimes it's cool to have a political debate on AICN, but like in this case, it just doesn't work.
re: asking about Norton by Kraken	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:36 PM
Yes he did. They told him that Norton is doing interviews and fully supporting the movie. Gale Hurd said she was doing an interview with him today about the movie.
It's really sad that DC didn't beat Marvel to the punch... by Cletus Van Damme	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:53 PM
...I mean, when WB bought DC way back (was it the early 90's?), that is where a cinematic universe should've begun. Don't get me wrong, I'm as big a Marvel fan as the next guy, I cut my comic teeth on Spider-Man during the first appearance-era of the Hobgoblin, but DC heroes just seem bigger-scale to me. It's sad to me that WB couldn't have done this a decade and a half ago and have done justice (no pun intended) to a Justice League movie, or several, by now, instead of treating us to Joel Shitmaker and his gay bat-stravaganzas. What's more is that Marvel even pulled this off with a few misifres in the mix...Blade, Ghost Rider, the Ang Lee Hulk (maybe you could even argue the FF movies and SM3). DC, I love you, man...but you have to get your heads out of your ass and operate.
Also, if Sony is smart by Kraken	Jun 5th, 2008 02:00:35 PM
They'll slate a Spider-Man 4 that can also get Spider-Man into the Avengers movie.
Still. . . by Darth_Kaos	Jun 5th, 2008 02:05:20 PM
as I read all these glowing reviews, I'm still a little concerned. I love it that Marvel has control, and not the studio hacks. But, I can't shake my doubts. Again, IRONMAN was good, a bit overrated, but very good. Ed Norton is one our generations great actors, and like Robert Downey will/has delivered an awesome performance. The trailers got better and better, so maybe if I'm not doing anything I will check it out. I usually don't listen to reviewers (they were so wrong about Indy 4. . .it sucked!), but I'll wait to hear back from the real movie reviewers. . the actual movie viewer.
Didn't Spider-Man.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:06:07 PM
have a Tony Stark power suit when he joined the Avengers once? That's fucking idiotic.
Cletus Van Damme by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:15:36 PM
I think that if WB/DC would have attempted that back in the day, they would have fucked up so bad that they may never have recovered.
Herb West.... by Cletus Van Damme	Jun 5th, 2008 02:16:59 PM
...you're probably right, but that's pretty much what Batman & Robin did to them anyway.
Reinstein is not alive by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:17:27 PM
of course he died - but his formula - although not the complete process is alive. Like I said - they didn't zeta ray Blonsky.
Cletus Van Damme by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:19:30 PM
Yeah, that's true. But can you imagine a Justice League movie that fucked up on that scale?
Universe not complete until... by batfunk	Jun 5th, 2008 02:23:44 PM
Shame we never got to see a fully realised Steve Gerber (RIP) approved Howard The Duck movie (one that didn't suck). How great would it have been to see Howard commenting on government sponsored corruption in the guise of George W And Dick C! Shame Bill Hicks is dead too!
Herb West by Cletus Van Damme	Jun 5th, 2008 02:24:47 PM
Yeah....I myself would never fully recover from that.
Reinstein is not alive? by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:26:12 PM
So what is it-just the name on the canister? That could still be cool, I guess.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:33:34 PM
Amen, brother.
The Truth About Ed Norton by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:35:58 PM
The official story is that Norton is doing press for the film - and promotion. He co-presented with Liv Tyler on the MTV MOVIE AWARDS, he just sat down to do a host of EPK for the film - and apparently he'll be doing a limited amount of press. -- The day after Nikki Finke reported he'd stormed off the movie, he was in ADR doing work on the film with the producers. Did he have a disagreement with the final cut of the film? We couldn't get that really answered - but I'll tell you my feelings. The original opening in Ed's script started with a Suicide in the Arctic. Which underlined how much he wanted to get rid of the curse. It was a very well written scene - and you'll see it on the Video Game - and I suspect that you'll be seeing it on DVD. There was also more exposition and extended flashbacks to his origins - and a whole sequence of Banner sitting down and talking to Doc Samson (pre-gamma'd) - but a lot of that is gone. I kinda missed the suicide opening of the film - but frankly - that would take away the punch of the "Helicopter" moment later in the film... or re-enforce the idea that there was no risk. There is a longer cut of this movie. But in that cut - I imagine it would take approximately an extra 20 minutes to get the HULK on screen - and that they didn't want to go over that stuff intensely - because I think they get that we get how Bruce became the HULK. But whatever the discussion they had, Ed is apparently going to be supportive of the film - and it looks like they've worked through a lot of the issues.
also, KurtLockwood by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 02:36:43 PM
MARVEL didn't slaughter Dark Phoenix, Fox did.
Wow, that's some bad writing by rassmguy	Jun 5th, 2008 02:41:32 PM
Honestly, I just don't understand how it is that someone like Harry Knowles, who has gone to such lengths to make a name for himself in the public eye, can't be bothered with something as simple and essential as copy-editing. Ellipsis and emdashes all over the place, but never used properly; rambling, disordered thought processes; overt use of vulgarity instead of actual points--it's ridiculous. Harry, I suggest you start taking the same pride in your work that you recently began taking in your health, because this review was incredibly unprofessional and juvenile.
Harry by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:42:29 PM
Do you think they got rid of those scenes so that it wouldn't be as dramatic as what Ang Lee's Hulk was?
hey rassmguy, by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 02:47:00 PM
the name of this website isn't a real word. why would its writers need to be professional or mature? it doesn't make sense to come here and bitch about shit like that. go read the Entertainment Weekly's review, if you care about copy editing so much.
Harry, no offense intended by only1	Jun 5th, 2008 02:49:11 PM
I KNOW you are a comic geek as well, you've documented that well here on the site. It just seems like the movie relies too much on the TV show and you are stoked over that. Bruce (BRUCE... not David!) Banner is first and foremost a scientist. In all actuality, in the comic book he was the lone hitchhiker rarely. Tortured soul... yes... and that's what works. But in the book he set down roots, worked in his proffesstion and did what he could as the Hulk. I do love that line from the trailer when Norton says something to the effect of "but if I can learn to control it." That has a VERY comic book feel to the character. I actually got Ang Lee's Hulk movie... but I was tuned into production from the begining and know he was going for more of a 'human' story than action... and that was his mistake... it was the story Lee wanted to tell over the story fans wanted to see. I still say it was Nolte's best performance in a decade and not bad as a movie... just a bit more action and no mutant poodles. (and Harry... I asked if you READ any comics, not owned... joking!) I actually have faith in this movie... I can't wait to see it but I am surprised at how many people I know are on the fence... all because of Lee's movie. It's been 4 years... maybe Marvel should have waited a bit longer. only question... when do we get a RED Hulk? :-D
i was there. even got to ask a question. by captainCAPSLOCK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:51:01 PM
highly skeptical when i heard about this movie...fortunately i got to find out for free last night that this movie has some balls!
Hey.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:52:06 PM
If the Thing gets to have sex, then why not the Hulk?
don't know what they'd do in a sequel though. by captainCAPSLOCK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:56:17 PM
i think they should just let this marinate for a few years and bring Banner back in after Avengers.
I liked Indy IV, and I have faith in Marvel. by ZeroCorpse	Jun 5th, 2008 03:00:55 PM
Harry's got a greak geek barometer, and I think he's probably right on this review. Time will tell, but either way I'm looking forward to the Cinematic Marvel Universe (and I have been trying to explain that the Cinematic Marvel Universe is it's own place, and NOT the Ultimate or 616 universe. I LIKE it this way. It gives us long-time readers something to look forward to besides regurgitating old stories.)
What's the deal about the Leader... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:01:48 PM
that we have been hearing about?
All I've got to say is this: by Jack Spyder	Jun 5th, 2008 03:02:22 PM
HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:03:43 PM
Isn't that what happened in the Avenger's comics from the 60's or whatever?
That's something else..... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:07:26 PM
How do they think they are going to bring Thor or Loki into this new Marvel universe that is supposed to be grounded in reality so well?
thebearovingian, if you're around... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 03:10:47 PM
i refuse to believe that we couldn't, granted with a lot of work and rearrangement of funds, socialize medicine without creating huge breaks in our way of life. back to my cancer metaphor, who is my fellow man that is going to give to mine and everyone else's cause? my church? my work? my friends? don' they all have their own issues? won't they be asking for the same help eventually? and isn't this a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? isn't my government supposed to be my fellow man? whatever. hulk smash.
nukedthefridge by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:16:24 PM
Fucking hilarious.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:18:23 PM
Yeah, I remembered something like that.
stormeyes447 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:20:33 PM
Those are Marvel's new rules, not mine.
Watch Nuked the fridge will get banned now by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 03:27:04 PM
Because I got banned under another name just for saying nuke the fridge! What a fucking fat faggot
on a tangent by muddstick	Jun 5th, 2008 03:29:01 PM
I like the crazy tangents these threads go on. Star Trek TMP? Crap movie btw, but at least they did good with the second one. Liked Iron Man, probably check this out. Not sold on the Avengers. That'll be a tough one to pull off.
KneelBeforeZod1 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:29:25 PM
Tell us more.
KneelBeforeZod1 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:37:15 PM
I dare you to tell us more.
OK by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:07 PM
I was The Nipples of God. Then I saw the site for Nuked the fridge .com. So I came on here and told people to check it out! all I said was nukedthefidge.com check it out! looks like AICN has a little competition! 2 days later BANNED
I'll be there in the opening day by Jack Spyder	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:29 PM
I trust Harry, but it's beyond this. I have a really good feeling about this, and I think that The Incredible Hulk can end up coming as a better film than even Iron Man. I mean, this is like the best year for all comic movie geeks out there. Make it mine, Marvel. PS: HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably get banned again for that! by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:52 PM

Punisher: War Zone will wipe away the hope... by alienindisguise	Jun 5th, 2008 03:46:25 PM
I still want the stand alone Silver Surfer flick and yeah, Im pretty hyped for the Captain America flick. I agree with the call for a Spiderman reboot and this time, get the continuity right and make the Goblin look like he should.
SCALE in the Comic Cineverse by wilsonfisk89	Jun 5th, 2008 03:57:00 PM
One glaring omission from comic films is the sense of the scale and grandeur of the universe. For instance, The Dark Pheonix saga in X3 and Supes Returns could have opened up the cosmos for a larger scale, that we are used to in the source text. Without doing so, the stories seem stuffy, self contained. The single greatest sequence is Supes was when he left the earth to look down on it from the stars.
Yeah... well.... by Fenrisulfr	Jun 5th, 2008 04:07:49 PM
You talk a lot of the Marvel universe, but not much about the flick itself, Harry. Your "I love, love, love" isn't that convincing to me.
guess this kills any possibility of... by BMacSmith	Jun 5th, 2008 04:33:24 PM
a Captain America WWII period flick. too bad. I would have liked to see that.
BMac by PresidentBauer	Jun 5th, 2008 04:42:03 PM
How does that kill a Cap movie?
For those of you who thought Star Trek:The Motion Picture was go by rogueleader66	Jun 5th, 2008 05:00:20 PM
Go watch the episode from the original series called "The Changeling" and you will see that ST:TMP is just an over budgeted, overly long, not very interesting remake of that episode, and not nearly as good as its source material. I love Trek but really hated ST:TMP. Now as far as Harry's review of the Hulk, while I may not always agree with his opinion, I trust it way more than so called "mainstream" critics. I have been psyched for this one from the get go, and now even more so.
Dark Phoenix.... by rogueleader66	Jun 5th, 2008 05:03:17 PM
In Rattner's film was not that good, I suppose if you didn't know anything about her from the comics she would be ok. But knowing the comic version, all she was in X3 was a watered down version. Granted she had awesome power, but little else.
Changeling... by muddstick	Jun 5th, 2008 05:08:31 PM
That's the episode, thanks Rogueleader66. I hear they stuffed some subplots from the proposed second series in to fill the movie out.
yea sucks dosen't it by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 05:10:17 PM
I love that name too!
Apparantly It has happened to other people too by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 05:13:09 PM

muddstick by rogueleader66	Jun 5th, 2008 05:18:51 PM
I don't know about the subplot stuff, I didn't care enough about ST:TMP to notice anything else, I had enough trouble staying awake, much less noticing any subplots. Either way, ST:TMP still sucked. Thank god they redeemed themselves with Wrath Of Khan, now THAT was Star Trek.
harry & co wants to stamp out the aint-Indy 4 sentiment by Prossor	Jun 5th, 2008 05:21:04 PM
methinks, never have i seen so many TBs pop up in teh Top Stories section to bury the shitstorm that was the Indy 4 tb. And now not mentioning the nuke site.... ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!
I demand a explanation for this outrage! by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 05:21:24 PM
Come to me Harry you fat faggot! come and explain yourself before Zod!! ZOD!!!!!!!
Sorry Harry... by Jabroni	Jun 5th, 2008 05:23:23 PM
I'll take bio-fuel at 35 cents a gallon. Over blowing a load over a goddam Avengers film. I've been on the fence about this movie since the 1st one sucked so much ass, plus it sounds like I have to be the ultimate geek to get all the Marvel "shout outs". Unlike many on this board, I have a life and I don't have time to research the backgrounds of every character in these movies. And while superhero movies are cool most of the time, I'm getting burned out on all this "geek fare" there's more out there that comic books to make movies out of. Not that you can tell. What I do know is the Transporter movies sucked serious ass, and the only thing that might make me see this is Norton is full sell-out mode on this. DVD release should be better.
Harry, I like your enthusiasm.... by Iron Giant	Jun 5th, 2008 05:26:16 PM
I hope the movie and the universe are just as awesome as you describe. I'm a little puzzled by the Reinstein reference though. The super-soldier serum was developed and administered by Dr. Abraham Erskine if my ubergeek memory recalls correctly.
if hulk is a sucess by GavinVanDraven	Jun 5th, 2008 05:26:53 PM

AICNs right-wingers by d_fens1969	Jun 5th, 2008 05:27:36 PM
Make me fucking sick. Still daring to defend neo-conservative bullshit after 8 years of a neocon president and his moronic cabinet. Biofuels, universal healthcare, immigrants, etc. all the big bad wolf to them. Well, last time I checked, we've had a president who was completely against all that, a profiteering oil industry, children who go without checkups, and pointless mess in Iraq. It sure aint liberalism run amuck that got america in the mess its in now. Though as mush-mouthed and weak liberals are so far when it comes to neocons like you fucking idiots, its bound to stay that way for a while.
fucking cat on the keyboard.... by GavinVanDraven	Jun 5th, 2008 05:27:42 PM
does this happen to everybody?
if this hulk is successful by GavinVanDraven	Jun 5th, 2008 05:30:55 PM
i have really great hopes for the marvel franchise. what are the odds that they can get the rights back to all of their properties to form a cohesive universe.... sony has spidey, fox has x-men and so forth? oh yeah, and MIKE O'HEARN should be THOR
Hey,you got some thing wrong by daquietman	Jun 5th, 2008 05:43:03 PM
For your information, the doctor that created Captain America was not Reinstein, it was Dr. Erskine. Please pay more attention before you tell fans whats what. While I realize the hulk is going to be good. Some new fans to comics are going to be mislead. Have a nice day
Moriarty needs to give his Hulk analysis by BDuncan	Jun 5th, 2008 05:46:17 PM
Harry didn't give much of a critical evaluation of the film. The marketing and effort to get positive word of mouth generated on this film has been rather poor from Universal in my country. I don't see it doing as well as Iron Man.
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Harry!!! by oisin5199	Jun 5th, 2008 06:21:27 PM
Thank god for this site and your reviews to remind people of the childlike joy of good cinema. And being roughly the same age as you, I grew up with similar fantasies of a Marvel cineverse. Let the haters say what you want, but I love how infectious your writing is. It makes me want to run out to the theater this second. But then they'll tell me it doesn't open until next week. Where's my pre-screening tickets? Capone!!!
Count me in as excited also. by mrfan	Jun 5th, 2008 06:25:03 PM
Great review Harry. That is the kind of excitement and passion I love in a movie viewer.
WOOPS! I MEANT TEAR by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 06:25:56 PM
QUESS I CAN'T BE AS GOOD AS THE POWERFULY FAT HARRY NOLES, WHO BANNES PEOPLE FOR NO GOOD REASON!
I KNOW I SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG TOO by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 06:40:06 PM
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Harry, my dear rotund friend... by Quintus_Arrius	Jun 5th, 2008 07:04:53 PM
.....I absolutely, unashamedly loved your review. Thou hath indeed made this old admiral emotional. Your general exuberance and enthusiasm for this motion picture; the story of the child being completely beguiled by the manifestation of the green beast forcing him to fall prostrate to the ground while admonishing the learned to reveal if the retched character named Banner hath indeed altered his state of mind and being has utterly captured my imagination. I for one cannot wait for the arrival

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