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Great Britain Is In A July 5th Tizzy Because It Just Saw Russell T. Davies’ Last Regular Installment Of DOCTOR WHO!!

Cool. by Kurutteru Yatsu	Jul 4th, 2008 08:49:51 PM
I don't buy it about Carlyle, but man, I can't wait for the torrents to stop popping up tomorrow.
Oh, and by the way. by Kurutteru Yatsu	Jul 4th, 2008 08:51:43 PM
How fitting that on Independence Day, a Yankee claims first on a British-borne talkback? USA! USA! USA!
Can't wait. by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 08:54:03 PM
I was actually LOOKING for spoilers all over the web and couldn't find anything.
Good Riddance, RTD by EskNerd	Jul 4th, 2008 08:55:30 PM
Steven Moffat can't take over as showrunner soon enough.
Or...... by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 08:57:48 PM
How about a nice 'thank you, RTD' for bringing Doctor Who back to us?
Here are some preview photos by EyeofPolyphemus	Jul 4th, 2008 09:03:59 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5sdh9q But no, you cannot find spoilers anywhere.
Promo by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 09:05:07 PM
The 30 second BBC One promo with the Davros narration is EXCELLENT.
I don't want... by Oomlot	Jul 4th, 2008 09:16:20 PM
...Hilter to be the next Doctor Who. This is like if they had replaced Tom Baker with Gary Coleman.
screw men! by Obscura	Jul 4th, 2008 09:19:06 PM
I want Joanna Lumley! she did it one year for children in need, as did Richard E Grant. A Female Doctor would be such a good twist!
Dark Horse by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 09:20:10 PM
Kim Wilde for the next Doctor!
amen esknerd, and bring on carlyle by prunkhaft	Jul 4th, 2008 09:30:46 PM
great choice.
shellfishh by EskNerd	Jul 4th, 2008 09:50:57 PM
I wrote a long, reasoned response to your comment but accidentally erased it, so here's the summary: Davies should be praised for bringing the show back and laying out a good first series. However, his writing has either been getting progressively worse or it's been getting stale. His dialogue and plot devices are cheesy even for Doctor Who, and that's saying something! Moffat, on the other hand, has contributed a handful of the best episodes of the new series, including my personal favorite, "Blink". I won't say Davies should have stepped aside earlier, but I certainly wish he had.
EskNerd by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 09:53:36 PM
I don't disagree with any of your points, and thought he utterly botched last season's Master story, and I am really hoping he doesn't botch this finale. I just think he should be given credit for what he has done well, including the first season, and the first two season finales.
it's all very exciting by Mr_X	Jul 4th, 2008 10:01:34 PM
im so used to spoilers, that im actually quite surprised there's nothign out there for the this ep.
as long as we are tossing out names.. by EyeofPolyphemus	Jul 4th, 2008 10:01:47 PM
I think the BBC should have pursued Alexander Siddig. He can play both serious and manic, has a built in audience from DS9, and would be the first non-white Doctor. I do not see how they could lose with him. He still does television work for the BBC, to boot.
Just tossing it out there... by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 10:03:44 PM
Alan Rickman?
The Full Monty? by captain_kirk	Jul 4th, 2008 10:05:02 PM
Come on, a nudie doctor?
AHHHIIIEEEEEE - Carlyle! by AnnoyYou	Jul 4th, 2008 10:12:44 PM
I for one will freak majorly if Tennant morphs into Carlyle tomorrow afternoon, and I mean this in a good way (I LOVE CARLYLE and have for years, ever since I saw him in Ken Loach's "Riff Raff"). But I fully expect all the old school Whovians and general naysayers and nitpickers to be pissed off about it. SO WHAT?! ROBERT CARLYLE! Yikes. I will have a million Kleenex at hand tomorrow.
Trik by vadakinX	Jul 4th, 2008 10:15:39 PM
What about Captain Jack? He has been a semi-regular companion.
Two by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 10:31:23 PM
Two big arguments AGAINST seeing a regeneration. One, I thought the whole point of the four movies next year was to accommodate Tennant and give him more time off. Second, after all he has done for the show, I can't see him going without a drawn out and well-deserved scene of goodbyes which he wouldn't get if he is already regenerating as the show starts.
Accusations of Buggery by ROBRAM89	Jul 4th, 2008 10:40:44 PM
Best band name ever.
Better than by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 10:45:10 PM
Suggestions of Sodomy???
Split doctors? by Dasinfogod	Jul 4th, 2008 10:45:20 PM
The shot from the Dalek was a glancing blow, and only seemed to affect half of the Doctor's body. I think what we're about to see is what happens when a regeneration goes horribly awry. He has two hearts and only one seems to have been killed off. My vote: Tennant will split in two and one of them ("half human on his mother's side") will likely die tearfully or maybe wander off with Rose back to her dimension. Do we know if Moffett or RTD will be producing the 2009 movies?
He wont regenerate by executiverocker	Jul 4th, 2008 10:47:49 PM
Not properly, his "death" scene was far too short and lacking emotion. He will either be the same, or the hand in the jar will play a trick.
esknerd is wrong!!! by JaredParker3	Jul 4th, 2008 11:07:15 PM
russell brought a refreshing change to doctor who he brought back the daleks in season 1 the cybermen in season 2 the master in season 3 and now davros his arch nemesis in season 4 plus hes given the doctor the most beautiful companions in billy piper freema ageyma and catherine tate his drive to perfect the series puts it in league with shows like battlestar galactica or alias shows that stimulate your mind not just your adrenaline
Jared. Really? by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 11:10:23 PM
Catherine Tate? "Most beautiful companions"? Really? Ultimately, Tate was MUCH better this year than I feared, and it looks like she is going to get a powerful send-off. But, watch the hyperbole.
Accusations of Buggery by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 11:30:08 PM
Sang to the tune of Real Life's "Images of Heaven". Start humming it and you will never stop.
Re: Trik_Ster by Larry of Arabia	Jul 4th, 2008 11:44:53 PM
It would be akin to fucking up, oh, say a Star Trek Relaunch. You here me, JJ?
Silly Prick-ster by shellfishh	Jul 4th, 2008 11:45:14 PM
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If Herc still did his "five star" system... by KnightShift	Jul 4th, 2008 11:52:56 PM
...then "The Stolen Earth" was better television than we deserve. Dear LORD, what an amazing time for television lately! Lost season 4, Battlestar Galactica, John Adams, and the past few Doctor Who episodes (especially Moffat's last two-parter). And now this. My guess: Tennant remains as the current Doctor, but we are going to see a future incarnation somehow and maybe even Christopher Eccleston as the ninth Doctor all together. Dalek Caan said that "the threefold man" was coming. Wouldn't it be like RTD to bring back the actor who brought the Doctor back from hiatus, for this his final episode as showrunner?
esknerd is wrong!!! by EskNerd	Jul 5th, 2008 12:02:52 AM
Yes, bringing back all the Doctor's classic nemeses is a refreshing change! :D
It's pronounced... by EskNerd	Jul 5th, 2008 12:19:26 AM
sarcasm.
That Dawn as a horse image kinda does it for me.... by Stormwatcher	Jul 5th, 2008 12:32:06 AM
Just saying, kinda hot
Thandie Newton should be the next Dr. by ThrowMeTheIdol	Jul 5th, 2008 12:32:29 AM

Gentlemen, fire up your torrent clients... by lynxpro	Jul 5th, 2008 12:55:39 AM
I predict the net is going to be on fire tomorrow around 2pm PST.
It's "Nemeses" by ROBRAM89	Jul 5th, 2008 12:56:06 AM
For the record.
Phuk Will Smith... by lynxpro	Jul 5th, 2008 12:57:43 AM
I am so angry that there aren't any good films out this 4th of July weekend. The Dark Knight and Hellboy 2 should both be in the theatres now but I guess the studios were worried that Ahh Hell Naaah Smith and his flaccid Hancock was going to destroy everything else at the theatres. Well, phuk the Fresh Prince all the way to Xenu's home planet.
I put my prediction at the end of this music video... by Kelvington	Jul 5th, 2008 01:13:20 AM
Here is my thoughts on the regeneration at the end of this Dalek music video... http://tinyurl.com/67jq8 w Of course remove spaces as needed.
Trik_Ster by EskNerd	Jul 5th, 2008 01:13:57 AM
Well, how about a new, real, pervasive threat to time and space? Sort of like when the Borg were introduced in Star Trek TNG--they weren't a recycled race from TOS. Daleks and Cybermen are iconic, sure, but they've been brought back too many times after being supposedly eradicated. Heck, they can even be from the Doctor's past. It's not like we know everything about his nearly a millennium of life. (E.g., perhaps there was a third major faction in the Time War.) We finally got to see The Shadow Proclamation, this past episode. More could be done with that. Also, am I the only one who thought The Shadow Proclamation was an actual.. y'know.. proclamation? A declaration akin to the prime directive or something. Okay, that's one too many Star Trek references for one talkback post. G'night!
do the brits celebrate the 4th? by bacci40	Jul 5th, 2008 01:21:52 AM
when they were finally rid of us fucking americans?
Brits celebrate on the 5th of July by palimpsest	Jul 5th, 2008 01:38:51 AM
we call it "Ironic Distance Day"...
And as for WHO by palimpsest	Jul 5th, 2008 01:43:28 AM
There's mammoth speculation here in the UK that a) there'll be no regeneration at all; b) there'll be two Tennant Doctors (Blue Suit and Brown Suit); c) that the New Doctor will be James Nesbit; d) that the new Doctor will be Robert Carlyle; e) that the new Doctor will be David Morrissey. Basically, like William Goldman said, no-one knows anything. The lid is so secure on this it beggars belief in this spoilerific age. Good work RTD and gang...
the drums by englishmidnight	Jul 5th, 2008 01:44:50 AM
hey guys, here's one and i might be wrong but did anyone else notice that close up of donna on the stairs when she was in the shadow proclamtion, as the close moved in on her face, you heard the sound of drums, and when the girl gave her a bowl of water you saw a close up of her ring, looked rather like the ring taken from the masters ashes by a female hand, could donna be a vessle for the master or a female timelord in hiding, just like the doctor in family of blood, we shall see
3-fold man by Mr. Flibble	Jul 5th, 2008 01:55:52 AM
it's possible people are reading too much into this, the fact is, as a time traveller, the Doctor exists in the past present and future. So trying to explain the quote with the whole "splitting" rumour which has only shown 2 Doctors can be folly. I'd say the resolution remains in the "key" (feared reset button) Martha possesses, the hand and also the fact that the medusa cascade is "1 second" outside normal time. I will buy the 2 Docs theory as it'll give Rose closure, leaving her off in her dimension with anoher Doctor. If thats the case it will mean Donna or Martha to die, i'd go for Donna, speculation and insinuation has been she'd contribute something. This will be it. Plus Martha gives better basis for comeback storylines with the unit connections. I'm not convinced on the Donna as a TL thing and the whole "drums thing" is a leap, it was just music for dramatic effect as she contemplates her future. Donna as a Timelady...who knows...but i'm certain she's dieing. Last of the timelords = dramatic. Return of old Nemesis TL = cool. Return of all TL = loads of new storylines. Return of one vague female TL = meh. I'm interested about the Davros resolution, in old series we had villains escape to return another day. With the Master we had a tidy ending, I want to see how they deal with him...
The Three-Fold Man... by Bill Clay	Jul 5th, 2008 01:57:16 AM
Could that be an allusion to seeing Eccleston, Tennant, and the NEXT Doctor all appearing in the finale? Doctors 9, 10, and 11 all together? That would be a show stopper for RTD's swan song!
That's a possibility... by palimpsest	Jul 5th, 2008 01:59:53 AM
past, present and future...
Doubt Tennant's going anywhere... by DarqueGuy	Jul 5th, 2008 02:01:52 AM
I think there'll be a catch to the regeneration, either using the pickled hand or the key that Martha has or even Donna somehow creating a parallel universe (in which she sacrifices herself or something), since they've been driving home how she's drawn to having new worlds created around her in the last couple weeks. And put me in as someone who does NOT want Carlyle taking over if/when Tennant decides to leave. I like the suggestion for Alexander Siddig a lot, but my #1 choice would probably be James Callis (Baltar on BSG), who has proven he can do both high drama and over-the-top odd quirkiness.
the drums by Ratburger	Jul 5th, 2008 02:04:37 AM
Yeah, why not? Maybe she's Romana.
Oh yeah, it's the hand by DeadPanWalking	Jul 5th, 2008 02:07:40 AM
They've been telegraphing that all season. Also, you've got to love RTD for bring Dr. Who back into the public sphere and doing a fantastic update to a show that's complete critic-bait. Having said that, there's no one on the fact of the Earth that I would rather have in charge of this show than Stephen Moffet. Him taking over is the absolute best-case scenario.
The hand problem by Matirius	Jul 5th, 2008 02:22:25 AM
Problem with RTD is, I can just see Capt Jack saying, "Hang on! If we put the hand into the Heart of the TARDIS everything will be ok!" With no rhyme or reason whatsoever. We will be cheated people. Count on it. Plots as loose and stringy as a 1,000 year-old sweater are RTD's achilles heel.
11th Doctor by FatherTed	Jul 5th, 2008 02:29:51 AM
I am sure I have read somewhere that the 11th Doctor was going to be John Simm (Life on Mars, the Master in new season iii) he had agreed to take over. If he does it might make sense to the Dark Time Lord theme. and would certainly open a whole new avenue on where the doctor could go story line wise
wow, Herc, thanks for this! by notspock2	Jul 5th, 2008 02:31:26 AM
i think "chosen" was the last time i felt this way about a season finale (though that galactica one was a doozy, the cliff hanger prior to it was not of the OMFG variety...) as others have said, serious kudos to everyone at the beeb for getting us this far spoiler free .. Impressively enough, the episode is getting show live in Trafalgar square tonight, it's amazing how in four years Who has gone from a laughing stock, to something once again of a national institution, whatever you might say about RTD's bingo card, some serious kudos are due for that alone...
about the hand... by notgeorgekaplan	Jul 5th, 2008 02:33:52 AM
here's one thought that suddenly popped into my mind. shortly after a timelord has regenerated, he can grow back lost limbs. when the master hijacked the tardis, he was alone with the jar shortly after he regenerated. what if he took the opportunity and cut off his own hand and switched it with the one in the jar for the same reason we all expect the hand still to be around: to help him (along with his ring) regenerating after a very fatal injury where a normal regeneration would not be possible? . . naaaaw....way too crazy idea
RE: fatherted by sharpie	Jul 5th, 2008 02:55:43 AM
I've heard somewhere that they're may bring the master back and do some sort of body swap thing where john simm is the doctor and david tennant is the master for the specials next year, but at this point, who knows?
No one has mentioned... by Berksbear1	Jul 5th, 2008 03:00:39 AM
...that throughout her appearance on Who, Donna has constantly declared that she is just a "temp". I think RTD has been telling us all along that she is just a temporary form of another character.
notgeorgekaplan by notspock2	Jul 5th, 2008 03:02:49 AM
you are my kind of crazy... i think it's still tennant's hand.. that would be a bit of a major backtrack needed to make that make sense
A bit of a misstep by 2LeggedFreak	Jul 5th, 2008 03:34:15 AM
I'm not sure that this regeneration, which I think is a bluff, isn't going to misfire a bit on RTD. Starting the finale with a cheesy deus ex machina to avoid a regeneration is going to disappoint people. I don't think you pull this kind of stunt with something as important as a regeneration and its not going to go down well. Nervous about this one.
About Russell T Davies ... by Shan	Jul 5th, 2008 03:52:22 AM
For a long time, Doctor Who was off the air and RTD was instrumental in not only bringing it back but also guaranteeing it a long future run. That's all I care about. Thanks RTD!
Not long now, people! by BiggusDickus	Jul 5th, 2008 03:53:16 AM
The pizza is sitting next to the Becks in the fridge, all ready for the tv highlight of the month.Have we been suckerpunched by RTD and Aunty Beeb all this time? Have they really sprung a 'surprise' regeneration on us? Or will it all turn out to be a great big 'reset button' ending? Who knows? Who cares? It'll be damn fine telly regardless and I'll be right here afterwards to see what you good people thought. Oh, the anticipation! It's like being twelve all over again!
FFS Herc by Mr Cairo	Jul 5th, 2008 03:53:18 AM
i moused over the invisiotext expecting a who spoiler and got a 24 spoiler instead , how about a small warning next time. Anyway i think were all being fooled i suspect that tennant will continue as the doctor due to some handwavium plot device to do with his hand in a jar
The promos Rock by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 03:53:32 AM
and I love all that Davros stuff about the Ending approaches and so forth..
As I said on the last TB (mild character spoilers) by Harrow	Jul 5th, 2008 03:55:56 AM
they showed 8 seconds of tonights show on Richard & Judy, Sarah Jane is still alive and captured by the daleks, as is her son, and Mickey was there. Didn't make out anyone else, but they had a lot of hostages, so I guess Torchwood were there too, still alive. They still didn't know what to make of the regen cliff-hanger though.
Bacci40 by BiggusDickus	Jul 5th, 2008 04:06:43 AM
This particular Brit celebrated the 4th in style last night, as my pub was having an American Beer Festival. Normally, you guys can't brew to save your lives but dear sweet Jesus, those Rogue and Sierra Nevada ales I drank last night more than made up for crap like Coors and Bud. God bless America!
They are being harvested... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 04:06:57 AM
To turn human into Daleks. thus enslaving the human race. forever.
The veteran BBC broadcast journalist... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 04:09:13 AM
Charles Wheeler Died yesterday. A british giant has left us....
RTD Speaks!!! by grimhandofdoom	Jul 5th, 2008 04:37:49 AM
In one of our daily newspapers this morning! http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbi z/2008/07/05/exclusive-russell -t-davies-on-the-future-of-dr- who-89520-2063 Theres two ways of looking at this eother DT going or RTD is extracting the urine. My view would be that it's time for a change all round with a new Doctor and companion but I reckon it's reset button time (Again) From the previews it looks like the Daleks have got their own death star as well!!!!!!
Didn't Tennant.. by DishyDish	Jul 5th, 2008 04:39:28 AM
state on the Andrew Marr show a few weeks back thats he's done the Christmas special, therefore no change tonight?
RTD... by DishyDish	Jul 5th, 2008 04:40:33 AM
Was instrumental in gheyifying DW!!!
my guess by BigEvil78	Jul 5th, 2008 04:47:20 AM
2 tennants,one stays with rose the other continues as a timelord.(not sure about the 3rd,id love sylvester mccoy to appear) the faithful companion to die will be the tardis.... ....which donna will save in the end cos she is 'something new'.....something to do with the energy from when rose looked into the heart of the tardis and sporadic breaths of time energy from the doctor. i reckon donna is the manifestation of this energy or the host. Tennant will be the doctor one way or another at the end of the episode. final words will be what? what? what? in several pitches to set up the christmas special
i need to add spaces to my talkbacks by BigEvil78	Jul 5th, 2008 05:20:49 AM

ROBERT CARLYLE.......BLEH!!!! by DECKERS	Jul 5th, 2008 05:20:54 AM
Ol Rob looking a bit ropey these days, don't know if he has enough of the appeal with da ladies that made eccleston/tennant so popular (sorry guys, but thats showbiz these days!!!) Unless he plays it like Begby a la Trainspotting!:-))Wouldn't that be great? Broken bottle in one hand, giving it large to the Daleks!!! I reckon David is staying until the last of next years specials, after which the Moff takes the reins-but I'm ready to be proved wrong. Kudos to the BBC for keeping this spoiler free, very unusual these days...
Past doctor? by Shoegeezer	Jul 5th, 2008 05:26:57 AM
Tate was on a chatshow in the uK this week and was talking about how she knew nothing of the show's history but, in tonight's episode, she "couldn't believe she was standing next to..." she then cut herself off in a non-spoiler manner. What could that mean? Anyways, nice to see that there are some secrets and surprises left in the tv world. Whatever it is, everyone is going to be watching tonight.
haven't looked forward to a TV show as much by Cedar_Room	Jul 5th, 2008 05:39:50 AM
since.......I don't know when. This is fantastic that we get a pre-show talkback!! May I add my name behind the Alan Rickman for Doctor claim - that would be unbelievably brilliant, if somewhat unlikely. Also have no problem with Robert Carlyle if indeed he is going to do it. I would love to see Tennant continue somehow as his Dr really has been one of the best. My only worry is that with all this excitement and anticipation built up it doesn't just end flatly. Something big has to happen!! We either need a new Doctor, or the mulitple Doctor idea for this to be worthwhile. See you all later this evening!!
July 5th Fucktard!! by magnius	Jul 5th, 2008 05:40:27 AM
It doesn't air on July 4th you fucking moron! It's July 5th, try buying a calendar!
No New Doctor by magnius	Jul 5th, 2008 05:41:19 AM
Sorry to disappoint all you all, but DT is here to stay, no new Doctor until at least 2011.
I thought the BBC offered Tennant a SHITLOAD of money by Big Dumb Ape	Jul 5th, 2008 05:51:52 AM
I thought I had read reports that the BBC had offered Tennant a shitload of money to come back again. And when you consider the fact that a break was already factored in to keep Tennant happy, while he went off and did his play, I'm guessing that people are reading too much into any type of regeneration scene. Truth be told, if the man's going on a break, having something go totally wrong and fucked up in a pseudo regeneration moment or cliffhanger is the perfect excuse to explain away the year long break. Hell, if they had REALLY gotten everyone on board -- I mean EVERYONE of cast and crew to keep their mouths shut to preserve any and all secrets -- and if they REALLY wanted to fuck with people's heads, I just think it would be hilarious if Tennant regenerated and turned into Robert Carlyl...only a year later you find out something was fucked up in the process, and thus he has to turn back into Tennant again. People talking about there being "two Tennants", so one can go off with Rose back to her parallel dimension -- that's an interesting idea as well. Not to mention the BBC would love to have some sort of backdoor open for Tennant to always reappear, even if it is a clone of himself or whatever. Frankly, I had said it in previous talkbacks and I'll say it again: I think Tennant is spectacular in the role, he is the heart and soul of what makes this modern incarnation work, and if I was running the BBC, I'd be offering the man one helluva check to keep him happy. Seriously, what's the deal with that? Is it THAT different over there? Don't British stars hold out or drive their prices up as much as American stars do here?
The first scene from the last Doctor Who - regeneration scene - by richiejohnston	Jul 5th, 2008 06:05:37 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MiV MFCw2RZI
And the new doctor is....... by football	Jul 5th, 2008 06:08:04 AM
...Dennis Hopper!
Paul McGann is back???!!! by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 06:11:53 AM
As a flash back to the Time War, the sealing of the Medusa Cascade, and the event which triggered his regeneration into Christopher Eccleston? Catherine Tate's "I couldn't believe I was standing next to..." line makes total sense, because McGann is famous, not just for Who.
there is no new doctor by mikeyone	Jul 5th, 2008 06:13:06 AM
tennant is stil there but will be cloned tonight, before rose dies and donna loses her memory and everything will begin again from just before donna turned up a year ago.
First scene leak... hilarious! by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 06:13:50 AM
Gervais as a pudgy Doctor who just doesn't give a shit about anyone.
@V'Shael by notgeorgekaplan	Jul 5th, 2008 06:19:06 AM
I would love that! It always annoyed me, that we didn't get to see McGann regenerate into Eccleston
incredible if we get a new Doctor... by danowen	Jul 5th, 2008 06:31:40 AM
... it really would be astonishing if RTD has kept that a secret. But I still doubt it. Maybe David Morrissey is the new Doc, and therefore his "guest starring" role in the Xmas special is subterfuge. It's actually David Tennant who's the guest star?
DT guest star by sharpie	Jul 5th, 2008 06:35:12 AM
that would actually make sense, danowen, DT has been said to be in the specials, that way he could be, and there could be a 'two doctors' kinda thing going on, which RTD said he wouldnt do, but if he's not doing the specials then that opens the door to all kinds of possibilities
Richard Ayoade for the Doctor by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 06:52:24 AM
MOSS!!!!
Matt Berry as the new Doctor by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 06:53:35 AM
Damned funny guy.
David Hasslehoff... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 06:54:12 AM
is the new dr. joking. With all this secrecy surrounding Dr Who and it has been unprecendented. I think the new dr, if there is one is someone we dont know about. But it would have to be someone in keeping with the britishness of Dr who and yet at the same time make sense. I am going out on a limb here as much as anyone here. I am going to suggest, the name Patrick Stewart. but I would also go along with Anthony Head. Head is an obvious choice. Starred in Buffy and was already in Dr who. they re-introduced Sarah jane. another name is jack davenport. If tate said that she couldnt believe who she was standing next to. that indicates that they have pulled off one hell of a casting coup and got a big name US actor. Eddie Izzard? there is one problem with him and that is that he is a self confessed control freak in the writers room. There is one more name bit of a dark horse this one....David Walliams.... and Dr who has always been a bit camp. or as I said they have pulled off one hell of casting coup.
Noel Fielding for Doctor by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 06:54:15 AM
Style and wit.
EvilWizardGlick by The_Inside_Joke	Jul 5th, 2008 06:56:58 AM
Wow, someone's a Mighty Boosh fan. I suppose somebody has to be.
or its.... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 06:57:39 AM
James Marsters......He was in Torchwood already in that brilliant season finale. where he kidnapped Captain Jack and left him stranded. it keeps the connection with Dr. who. or this year dr who regenerates into Dobby the house elf. Last year it was yoda.
jesus. are those MAINSTREAM names the ONLY Brits known? by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 06:59:47 AM
Fuck me, doesn't anybody know anyone else in the Brit acting community? Christ rehash a couple of actors and that is it. I'm expecting someone to toss out Steve Coogan or Colm Meaney next.
Emerald Boy... Do you not think Tate by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 07:00:42 AM
would have blown away by standing next to Paul "Withnail and I" McGann?
The_Inside_Joke, and It Crowd. by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 07:00:46 AM
yep. Amazing those three play in both.
Colm Meany's not British. by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 07:02:14 AM
That's like saying George Bush is from Canada. It's so wrong, it makes you look like an idiot.
Marc Warren darker Doctor by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 07:02:25 AM
he has the chops and is a bit darker.
Chris Coghill an every man Doctor by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 07:04:08 AM
Another interesting Doctor.
V'Shael, Sorry neither is Marsters by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 5th, 2008 07:05:44 AM
Makes you a complete monkey ass sucking tool because the point wasn't that ALL choices were Brits. The idea was that mmeaney was one of the FEW recognized names. Can you not discern the difference ?
RIP Donna Noble. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Jul 5th, 2008 07:12:14 AM
That's my prediction.
By the way, notice how Catherine Tate is on Graham Norton's show by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Jul 5th, 2008 07:14:54 AM
James Nesbitt. I wonder why? Hmmm.
Stephen Fry! by zer05um	Jul 5th, 2008 07:19:52 AM
Now THAT would be interesting. Erudite, witty and oh so clever. Seriously, I'm just drooling in anticipation. Dear GODS, how the hell did they manage to keep this under wraps in this day and age. BRAVO Aunty - this is how it's done. As an aside, whilst I may not be the greatest fan of RTD's writing I can't praise him enough for bringing Who back and ensuring it is being passed on into the best hands. And Torchwood, which I have a real soft spot for. Thank you.
Life is ironic by earlfist	Jul 5th, 2008 07:29:36 AM
Last week i posted the fact that only death or sex with nigella would make me miss tonights episode. Never tempt fate kids coz this afternoon i write this from my hospital bed. And i could cop it any moment. Apparently cigarettes are bad for you. Wish me well you lucky buggers. I will have to vacate this site and hope to god someone puts it on youtube.
Pretty cool off ya doing this Herc.... by Gabba-UK	Jul 5th, 2008 07:29:41 AM
geeks and nerds on both sides of the pond uniting. As a confirmed Tater (long before she turned up on Who) I was really worried I wouldn't make it to the series end because of her. But Tennent has been nothing short of superb all season and more than made up for her being there. And last weeks cliffhanger had got me as jazzed as everyone in the UK is about tonights show. Incedently, I work in a bookies here in UK and the money thats been thrown on bets for James McAvoy to be the next Doctor is staggering!! Either someone knows something or their going to look very stupid. Won't be McAvoy anyway. He gets his name above the title of blockbuster movie posters now. As good as a Who he'd make, there's no way the BBC could afford him now.
RTD finally back on track with Daleks by Fourthwall	Jul 5th, 2008 07:36:13 AM
But he had lost it for a while. Dalek stop motion parody below. http://tinyurl.com/695473
Johnny Vegas as the new doctor! by nobletoast13	Jul 5th, 2008 07:36:27 AM
or Norris from corry perhaps?
5 hours to go! by The Handsome 12th Doctor	Jul 5th, 2008 07:46:20 AM
This is easily the most excited I've been about Who since it returned in 2005. Well done to RTD and Co for giving us this buzz, and for amazingly still keeping what happens secret. I'll be back in 6 hours or so with my thoughts. It'll likely be difficult to write a review tonight without spoilers in it. Does anyone still want us to bother doing this, or are you accepting that there's bound to be spoilers ahoy later?
The Doc's most feaithful companion is the Tardis. by The True Priapic	Jul 5th, 2008 07:52:39 AM
Said it.
True Priapic by Oomlot	Jul 5th, 2008 08:13:56 AM
Damn that is a good point. But somehow I can't imagine it actually dying, since it's the last one and all. Of course that's only 'apparently' it's the last one, I mean there could be other ones that are just lying around. Hell it could even have a child Tardis. I still hope that Robert Carlyle isn't the new doctor, I hate that guy and probably won't want to watch it.
There will be spoilers all over the net by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 08:32:28 AM
once it has aired. I'll be going dark until I get it from the torrents. No phone, no GSM, just a good book and some pizza. Once I've seen it, I'll be back online to see peoples reactions.
sorry to hear that earlfist... by Gabba-UK	Jul 5th, 2008 08:39:41 AM
get well soon.
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I always wanted Bill Nighy as Doctor. by DerLanghaarige	Jul 5th, 2008 08:55:02 AM

Oomlot by zer05um	Jul 5th, 2008 09:12:33 AM
There's the rift machine with the coral-like growth around it in Torchwood to consider. When it activates it seems to be rather TARDIS-like in motion and sound.
About the new Doctor... by Nodoordonotthereisnotry	Jul 5th, 2008 09:16:11 AM
This is what I would like to see in the future. Somehow, Tennant stays as a Doctor until Hugh Laurie finishes with House M.D. Then Hugh takes over the role, thus making the comment by Elizabateth about the "older" Doctor more meaningful.
Micheal Jackson by crashedastronaut	Jul 5th, 2008 09:16:37 AM
as the new doctor.
There's something bizarre about going to a footy tournament by Harrow	Jul 5th, 2008 09:26:15 AM
to watch my nephew play (he scored a blinder in a 3-0 win, but never made the knockout stages) and hearing all the parents discussing what will happen tonight, and whether Tennant is staying, and even about going on the internet desperately hunting for spoilers (of course they didn't know that's what they're called). RTD deserves massive praise for turning Who back into a massive national again so quickly!
Last minute predictions by redrain85	Jul 5th, 2008 09:28:08 AM
Tennant leaving: It's well known that he's still appearing in the forthcoming specials. There's a remote chance these specials could be taking place before Journey's End, but I doubt it. Not to mention the stories about the Beeb offering Tennant a fuckton of money to stay. The regeneration: I'm worried the rumor about Tennant splitting in two (due to a botched regeneration that involves the hand), and one of them living happily ever after with Rose, is probably true. (The terrible Doctor's daughter episode already set a precedent, for a Time Lord regenerating without changing appearance.) This would be an incredibly lame cop-out, but what else is new. RTD is a master at deus ex machina endings. As for the "threefold man" comment by Dalek Caan, I'll be waiting with the rest of you to find out if this ends up leading to anything. It would be a pleasant surprise if this became a multiple Doctor episode. But, somehow I really doubt it. These last two eps must have been incredibly expensive to make, with all the effects and guest stars. Getting Davison, McGann, Eccleston, or McCoy would add too much to the already sky high costs. The most faithful companion who dies: It won't be the Tardis. Without the Tardis, there'd be no show. It won't be Sarah Jane or K9, they've still got Sarah Jane Adventures to make. (Not to mention the outrage, if Sarah Jane dies.) It won't be Martha or Mickey, because they're going to appear on Torchwood as regulars next year. Captain Jack is immortal, so he's out. That leaves Rose and Donna. Somehow, I doubt RTD could bear to kill off his precious Rose. So Donna is a likely candidate. Of course, RTD could pull a fast one by having any one of the companions die: but then, after the inevitable reset button, that companion comes back to life. But I'm going to make a crazy suggestion here. If we take the "faithful companion" line more figuratively than literally: then you could argue that Davros is the Doctor's most faithful companion. Think about it. He's known the Doctor longer than anyone, except for Sarah Jane. He's been a constant "companion", always following the Doctor throughout his regenerations. I hope that Davros isn't killed off permanently, though. I'd hate for him to come back now, only to disappear again. What's special about Donna: I doubt she's a Time Lord who used the Chameleon Arch, in order to hide out on Earth. Or that she's somehow related to the Doctor. It's probably more like the Universe just happened to pick a nobody like Donna, to take on a pivotal role. Kind of like how the Doctor is supposed to be Time's champion. And the Trickster (probably some kind of Eternal working for the Black Guardian, like The Shadow from "Armageddon Factor") somehow discovered that Donna would become a focal point, like Sarah Jane was. Who's inside the Supreme Red Dalek: Well, it wasn't Harriet Jones. (Too bad, I would have enjoyed that.) I don't think it's the Emperor Dalek from series one, either. But I'd guess that the Supreme Dalek is the only one who isn't a true Dalek (not cloned from one of Davros' cells). And it's probably someone that the Doctor once knew, judging from what's been said between it and Davros. What happens to the captured humans: I don't think they're going to be converted to Daleks. While Davros wouldn't be above harvesting other races to create Daleks, I think that right now he wants to keep them "pure" and loyal. Cloning them from his own tissue was probably the best way to achieve that. (I believe the Red Supreme Dalek is the lone exception.) It's more likely that they're going to be tested to see if they'll be useful as worker slaves for the Crucible. Useful people go to work, useless ones die. What's the deal with the Crucible and the 27 planets: The name Crucible suggests it's some kind of factory, that forges something. Probably Dalek ships. But it's got to be more than that. It's what pulled the planets into the Medusa Cascade, for example. And, in a nod to the "Pirate Planet" (the mention of Calufrax was the obvious tip-off), Davros is likely using the gravitational forces of the planets as an "engine" in perfect balance, to create enough energy to power the Crucible. I'm guessing that since Davros has created his own little pocket universe (they're occupying space one second ahead of the rest of the universe), he's intending to destroy the existing universes and replace them with his own. Which is where the Crucible comes in. But, naturally, Martha will use that "key" to somehow reset everything and they'll all live happily ever after. With RTD, you can count on it.
Get Ready For A New Doctor by Russell T Davis	Jul 5th, 2008 09:39:25 AM
I am pretty sure that we will see a new Doctor introduced today -however as always the regeneration will render him pretty much helpless for the whole episode hence the need for his companions to take over the battle with the Daleks. The reason I say this is that RTD wanted to do this with Chris Eccelstone's dr but word got out and he was furious.The level of secrecy is phenominal esp when the Controller of BBC1 has not even seen the episode, marked individual scripts etc. Do not be suprised if all those pictures of David Tennant filming the specials are all a smoke screen - he will be leaving tonight for sure : it's been hinted throughout this series ( particulary in the Ood episode where it's mentioned that his 'song is nearly at an end'. And Bad Wolf = regeneration (as per series 1) RTD is clearing the decks for Moffatt to make his own mark on the show -that means a new Doctor and new companions. Whoever takes over tonight one thing's for sure -this is going to be a cracking finale.
Doctor's daughter was a good one! by Blok Narpin	Jul 5th, 2008 09:41:00 AM
"(The terrible Doctor's daughter episode already set a precedent, " Are you kidding? The Doctor's Daughter was a great episode!!
A name from left field for the 11th Dr. by FatherTed	Jul 5th, 2008 09:48:10 AM
I have seen Eddie Izzard's name chucked in a few times
russel t! by notspock2	Jul 5th, 2008 09:51:45 AM
i thought the ood's song was a song of captivity/sadness, his song ending might be the easing of his sadness, say at the destruction of a planet.. You know, if the daleks can steal a planet, or 27, and they can now break the lock on the time war.. if they put those two things together maybe they could bust out skaro and gallifrey... too much? probably.
Clearing the decks for Moffat by O_Goncho	Jul 5th, 2008 09:55:49 AM
Is something they'd do immediately before he's set to take over, surely? We've still got a whole other year of RTD to survive :(
BiggusDickus by lynxpro	Jul 5th, 2008 10:07:01 AM
Sierra Nevada is pretty much what us NorCal'ers drink. Well, Sam Adams too even if it is an East Coast Bastard beer named after such a historical bastard at that.
imagine Steve Coogan as the Doc... by lynxpro	Jul 5th, 2008 10:11:21 AM
The TARDIS would be filled with hookers and blow. You know what? I kinda like that thought.
just seen this posted elsewhere.. by notspock2	Jul 5th, 2008 10:15:53 AM
ALEXIS DENISOF for doctor. i think we could go with that if Hugh Laurie wasn't available.
Law firm of Shag, Snog, Tosser and Buggery. by Uncapie	Jul 5th, 2008 10:16:15 AM
At your service!
take a deep breath people ... by tricky dick	Jul 5th, 2008 10:22:19 AM
lets cool it on the gassing about... and brace ourselves for a likely cop out regeneration stunt, which will be balanced out by an otherwise good (great lets hope) episode. btw - RTD, depsite his excesses, deserves our thanks for bringing us a Doctor Who which is better than we (at least I) could have hoped for. I hope he pens the occassional episode in the future.
new doctor revealed at the very end by tricky dick	Jul 5th, 2008 10:26:11 AM
wouldn't be surprised if we see tantalizing glimpses of an obviously non-Tennant Doctor from the back (i.e. different hair, different build) from the get go, and the new face revealed at the end (that's how I'd have done it).
All bets are off by ScotiaNova	Jul 5th, 2008 10:30:06 AM
Apparantly bookmakers William Hill have stopped taking bets on who number 11 will be as there has been a suspicious number of large bets on David Morrissey filling the shoes.
The Handsome 12th Doctor, just one problem...... by axcel1	Jul 5th, 2008 10:32:17 AM
I WANT SPOILERS!!!!!! BIG SPOILERS, HUGE SPOILERS, GIGANTIC SPOILERS!!!!! PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! I love spoilers, they are my lifeeeeeeeeee!!!
Oh, everyone, one more thing I love.... by axcel1	Jul 5th, 2008 10:35:23 AM
RESET BUTTONS!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSS, GIVE ME MORE RESET BUTTONS, PLEASEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do people still think River by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 10:39:22 AM
was talking about a future incarnation? Surely it was obvious that when she was talking about young and old, she still meant Tennant. No? I thought that was bleedin obvious but apparently not.
please god i dont want to be disappointed! by BigEvil78	Jul 5th, 2008 10:43:28 AM
i have never looked forward to a television show so much. i am working till 9 in my gym and (although i already planned to)i have been asked by some members to put bbc1 on instead of the music channels tonight so they can watch while sitting on a bike/running etc. who would of ever thought DW would ever be in the general publics conciousness to such an extent
zer05um by Oomlot	Jul 5th, 2008 10:45:33 AM
Wouldn't know about that myself, I watched like, the first 3 episodes of torchwood before I came to the conclusion that the doctor's universe without the doctor, was simply without the doctor. I like it when Cpt'n Jack crosses over, but mainly because he was a Doctor Who companion, and that whole 'not now captain' thing is funny. Wish I was in England to actually watch this episode on TV. I'll have to wait a while before I can check the reaction. Should be fun, or a nightmare, not much inbetween
I won't be angry if Tennant stays. by V'Shael	Jul 5th, 2008 10:50:58 AM
Or if he leaves. I'll be angry if RTD fucks up the script somehow. That would include using a MASSIVE reset button, like last years Master finale. That would, indeed, annoy me. But for the first time in a long time, I actually believe RTD will pull this off, and it will be a great episode. It's a tribute to the man that he could make a cynical bastard like me optimistic about tonights episode.
Somebody mentioned the level of Secrecy and they are right by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 11:13:14 AM
for a number of reasons. one ecclestones deaprture. two. all the buzz about the companions. and the denials that followed especially billie piper and Freema Aygeman. most importantly three. at the start of season 4 Catherine Tate blabbed about David tennant and his dithering about whether he was going to leave the tardis. Tennant was forced to come out and admit that he would be leaving at the end of series 4. and where are we? at the end of series 4. and one more thing I would say that secrecy is down to one simple fact. there was endless speculation about RTD's future and that drove him mad. RTD got the dr he wanted. New dr, new head writer, new companion. all new who.....
And the NEW Doctor could be..... by football	Jul 5th, 2008 11:18:42 AM
.... Kevin Spacey!!
Mr_Saxon............. by axcel1	Jul 5th, 2008 11:20:48 AM
I won't be angry and I'm people. I might be sad to see Tennant go. Here's hoping for rest buttons, cop-outs, cheesy deus ex machina, I want it all!!!!!
Oh Canada! by Pogue__Mahone	Jul 5th, 2008 11:26:17 AM
Us Canadians are waiting eagerly for this as well... hurry up, torrents! I have a friend who's a HUGE WHO fan but she's been on holiday so she hasn't seen the last two episodes yet and she's stayed religiously spoiler free! I can't wait to see her face when she watches!!! And glad to see the RTD love... like many, I agree that some of his writing has been weak... but to bring back The Doctor with such a massive level of success? Kudos! And BigEvil78... a bunch of fit, sweaty men watching the season finale of Doctor Who together? Are you SURE you're at work or are you attending RTD's season finale party? KIDDING! I jest! Haha!
ONLY 1 Hour 10mins till WHO Time!! by TheTaf	Jul 5th, 2008 11:32:01 AM
I’ve just checked and Who will be on at the earlier time of 6.40pm today. The episode has a longer running time this week of 65mins (Wahooooooo). My Theories: 1. DT will regenerate 2. Donna will DIE 3. We will have multiple Doctors 4. One of them will definitely be either Christopher Ecclestone or Robert Carlyle 5. Someone will use the “Haagen-Dazs” Key (or whatever it’s called) and reset time so everything goes back to normal and DT will be the doctor again.
Donna by Chriss	Jul 5th, 2008 11:37:53 AM
It's painfully obvious that they are going to kill her. "Journey's End" refers to Donna, not the Dr. RTD (& bless him for bringing the show back) uses foreshadowing as subtly as a terrorist uses a suicide bomber.
Regeneration by Chriss	Jul 5th, 2008 11:42:27 AM
Oh and one more thing. While DT was okay in the role, he was way to young and/or naive/innocent. From Hartnell to Tennant, each regeneration seems to be getting younger. They'll have a teenager playing the part soon.
ECCLESTON! by lynxpro	Jul 5th, 2008 11:42:50 AM
Please learn to spell, peeps. And just to pre-empt the other commonly misspelled name, that would be Peter DAVISON. Oh wait, forgot another...STEVEN Moffat, or just call him "The Moff" or Steven Phukkin Moffat.
pogue_mahone! by BigEvil78	Jul 5th, 2008 11:45:21 AM
not just the sweaty men but for once i personally wont be checking out the fit young ladies who also frequent my gym,but will be rooted to the tv.believe me that is like an alternate universe!!
just watched "time crash" again, it would by notspock2	Jul 5th, 2008 11:45:54 AM
Make me happy if later tonight there were lots of people misspelling Davison. less than an hour to go!
Tennant by Pikestar	Jul 5th, 2008 11:49:08 AM
I have thoroughly enjoyed David Tennant as the Doctor and would be sorely disappointed to see him leave. That said I was thoroughly disappointed when Eccleston turned into Tennant so I'm open minded. Yes RTD's plots have been loose but respect to the man for bringing us to where we are today. I never in my adult life thought I could be so excited about a finale. Just praying it's not another Phantom menace
If you look at pictures on youtube... by football	Jul 5th, 2008 11:52:59 AM
It's clear that Tennant, Donna, Rose and the Tardis are on a beach. This scene hasn't appeared yet so it must mean Tennant doesn't regenerate. doesn't regenerate
We should not forget by Life Proof	Jul 5th, 2008 11:58:55 AM
that Tennant is under contract until the end of 2009. Likely he will be the Doctor for the four specials coming out that year since there will be no series.
Could Sarah Jane be the companion to die? by SpyGuy	Jul 5th, 2008 12:13:33 PM
In the latest DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE, Elisabeth Sladen talks about "Journey's End" being her last appearance on DOCTOR WHO. With everyone expecting Donna or Rose to die, could RTD make us old-school Whovians cry like fucking babies by killing off Sarah Jane? You know, I do believe he could...
SpyGuy by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 5th, 2008 12:17:07 PM
Doubtful, she's filming the second series of The Sarah-Jane Adventures at the moment.
I think the campanion to die will be by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 12:19:31 PM
Martha jones.
Forest of the Dead by History101	Jul 5th, 2008 12:23:37 PM
If they intended/knew that Tennant was out, why write Forest of the Dead the way they did. It gave the appearance of the doctor meeting this future companion with the same face... or am I overreading?
10 minutes to go... by football	Jul 5th, 2008 12:29:29 PM

radio silence starting in by RaveX	Jul 5th, 2008 12:31:04 PM
3...2...1...
Lynxpro by BiggusDickus	Jul 5th, 2008 12:34:40 PM
Damned fine stuff! I tried five Sierra Nevada ales with 'Torpedo IPA', 'Southern Hemisphere Harvest' and 'Bigfoot' being my favourites. And in my humble opinion, any country that can produce something as utterly gorgeous as 'Rogue Chocolate Stout' deserves to be the leader of the free world... Anyway, nearly 'Who' time kiddies! Ten minutes to go! See you back here for the TB later!
Looking back by redrain85	Jul 5th, 2008 12:41:00 PM
@Blok Narpin: It wasn't so much the story of the episode as a whole. It was the ending of "The Doctor's Daughter" that ticked me off. We've never seen a Time Lord regenerate, while still keeping the same body. It broke a long-standing tradition, without any explanation as to why it happened. @tricky dick: Don't get me wrong. I appreciate what RTD did for Who fans, by bringing the show back from the dead and making it popular again. And when he wants to, he can write a cracking good script. I'm just concerned that he's bitten off more than he can chew here, with his "swan song" of an exit. We'll find out, shortly!
It was the hand that saved him!!! by football	Jul 5th, 2008 12:42:43 PM

EXTERMINERAN!! Wow Daleks speak German!! by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Jul 5th, 2008 12:46:29 PM
Thats was cool lol
hand by naughty pirate	Jul 5th, 2008 12:46:49 PM
i knew they would use that fucking hand !!!!!! nice to see rose's milf
Exterminieren? by DerLanghaarige	Jul 5th, 2008 12:55:47 PM
In the German dubbing they always said 'eliminieren' instead of 'exterminieren', as far as I know.
Ok Mr. Saxon by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 12:57:52 PM
I am sitting here in Texas and cannot wait to get the torrent. Spill the beans
Guess who overslept by proper	Jul 5th, 2008 12:59:53 PM
I missed the start by 10 mins,http://tinyurl.com/5wd5kn
Reality Bomb? by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:02:59 PM

Defeated by proper	Jul 5th, 2008 01:05:09 PM
Neverrrrr.I'm taping it anyway :),it's just if I miss the first 5 mins it's a write off.Heres what I'm watching in the meantime,http://tinyurl.com/ms vpy,http://tinyurl.com/62n84n, enjoy the show everybody
Dissolves all life? by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:06:26 PM

Dissolves EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ANYTIME? Dissolves Reality? by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:07:38 PM
Only Daleks survive.
been trying to post this thanks guys by earlfist	Jul 5th, 2008 01:08:03 PM
not the big c but mighty thrombo. Apparently smoking drinking sitting on you arse watching tv is not good for you. Who'd of thought it. Enjoy the episode and i hope someone puts it on youtube otherwise i may have to read one of those damn reviews.
If only the Daleks survive.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:09:14 PM
Aren't they gonna be pretty fucking bored?
And what will they eat? by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:09:54 PM
They haven't thought it through...
Osterhagen Key... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:10:58 PM
BOOM! Earth self-destruct button... the Final Option..
Doctors Soul revealed... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:13:25 PM
Yawn... "The children of time are violent..." big deal.
Davros has shown the Doctor 'himself'.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:14:40 PM
The man who keeps on running, too ashamed to look back.
"Detonate the Reality Bomb!" by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:15:17 PM

Ah well.. he's got 200 'rels' to stop it.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:15:49 PM

Two Doctors.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:16:46 PM

Donna has sabotaged the Reality Bomb.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:18:01 PM

Regens into who? by XXLgamer	Jul 5th, 2008 01:18:06 PM

Donna is suddenly a genius - Now she's Part Timelord! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:18:47 PM

Doctor Donna.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:19:12 PM

It seems Donna is now the Doctor's equal.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:20:00 PM

Somebody, anybody, please.............. by axcel1	Jul 5th, 2008 01:20:02 PM
Tell me what's happened so far, it will be another 5 to 6 hours before I get to see it. Tell me and I'll put you in my will.
LOL!!!!!! by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Jul 5th, 2008 01:21:01 PM
Thjis is so funny :)
It's all about the Hand... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:21:02 PM

THREE Doctors?! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:21:28 PM

It seems Donna is now capable of... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:22:03 PM
A bad David Tennant impression.
Did he regen into someone new? by XXLgamer	Jul 5th, 2008 01:22:39 PM

"I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now" by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:23:14 PM
Great line
No, he put his energy into the hand, and just reappeared as hims by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:23:34 PM
In a flashy anti-climax...
Watch by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:24:04 PM
http://tinyurl.com/59jfb7
Watch by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:24:08 PM
http://tinyurl.com/59jfb7
Tried to save Davros! Doctor is "Destroyer of Worlds!" by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:24:29 PM

Bye-Bye Daleks! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:25:02 PM

K-9 is back... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:25:51 PM

Misery's ALIVE!!!! by Skywise	Jul 5th, 2008 01:26:58 PM
Sorry... :)
It takes six to fly the TARDIS.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:27:51 PM

Summat's got to go wrong now... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:28:11 PM

Everyone is far too happy... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:28:31 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Jul 5th, 2008 01:28:32 PM
Not sure ab out this lol
Love the music by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:28:49 PM
What is it while the "towing" is happening?
Not sure, but the music was good. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:29:59 PM

"No you plum! He's called Tony." by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:31:33 PM

Rose booted off with alernate Doctor into alternate dimension.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:32:30 PM

Rose and Alternate Doctor swap spit... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:34:17 PM

They're getting it on in another dimension! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:34:50 PM

Donna's going wibble - all that intelligence.. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:35:46 PM
To much... Gonna die?
Or is he gonna ditch her? by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:36:47 PM

She's been memory wiped. by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:38:01 PM

"They will never forget her, while she will never remember.." by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:39:16 PM

"Yeah, see ya.." by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:40:17 PM

And that's yer lot! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:42:52 PM
Nothing earth-shattering or suprising there...
Cybermen Return at Christmas! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:43:25 PM

Fantastic Ending by Plinglebob	Jul 5th, 2008 01:43:31 PM
And for once, RTD didn't ruin the emotional moment.
Oh boy by ElPaw	Jul 5th, 2008 01:43:57 PM
Daleks, Cybermen, Cybermen, Daleks, repeat ad nauseam
Awww. That was all rather good in the end! by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Jul 5th, 2008 01:44:03 PM
Well done Russell :)
This Christmas, take home a Cyberman! by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:44:11 PM

Mr. Saxon by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:44:23 PM
I cried too, and I hope to do the same
Plus a quick xmas teaser with the cybermen by football	Jul 5th, 2008 01:44:56 PM

And Bernard Cribbins does rock. by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Jul 5th, 2008 01:45:46 PM
He should be the new Companion lol
good ep not great ep by LordMyst	Jul 5th, 2008 01:46:11 PM
so next christmas cybermen very original
Nice to see Davros back..and done so well.. by Rameses	Jul 5th, 2008 01:47:00 PM
But most of that episode was a load of shouty ,Bollocks!
All fairly predictable... by Pawprint	Jul 5th, 2008 01:49:34 PM
But done with emotion and style... still; bit of a let-down.
A couple of weeks ago... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 01:50:41 PM
I made a prediction about donna. I think it was along the lines of that the dr would have to wipe her memory and that all her memories of the dr would be wiped out. I am amazed how right I was.
Cybermen by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:54:02 PM
Won't they be done by Moffat now or is it still RTD?
What about K9 and Captain Jack? by WazMan	Jul 5th, 2008 01:55:10 PM
What happened to them?
Donna by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:55:24 PM
It was so sad to see Donna not only realize that she was going to forget her memories with the Doctor, but also the realization that she was going to go back to being the self centered, selfish, lazy tart that she was.
synopsis by discomatic	Jul 5th, 2008 01:55:34 PM
Would someone please give your American cousins a quick rundown of what happened?
Capt Jack by FakeTHulce	Jul 5th, 2008 01:56:53 PM
again has the best lines throughout the episode
WHo will be the new companion... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 01:58:55 PM

DON'T READ ANY FURTHER DOWN THIS THREAD by Ray Gamma	Jul 5th, 2008 01:59:06 PM
IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN VIEWER, BECAUSE THE EPISODE HAS JUST FINISHED HERE IN THE UK AND IT'S GONNA BE SPOILERS GALORE ALL THE WAY NOW
Guys, come on................. by axcel1	Jul 5th, 2008 01:59:28 PM
Why didn't someone tell us american jerks we could have watched it on the web live. I only caught the last 10, maybe 13 minutes of it. I saw it where everyone was standing around the TARDIS console cheering, everyone going home, donna getting her memory wiped, the doctor leaving Earth in the rain. I'm guessing "The Three-Fold Man" was, the Doctor, the Doctor, and Donna. Sad to see her go, Ms Tate was great!!!!!
PAWPRINT by Ray Gamma	Jul 5th, 2008 02:00:17 PM
PAWPRICK MORE LIKE
longer running time too by ahdvd	Jul 5th, 2008 02:00:23 PM
It was 65 minutes long as opposed to the usual 50 minutes, wonder if america will get an extended time slot when it airs there or if they will trim it down.
That was shit... by UltraMeerkat	Jul 5th, 2008 02:00:40 PM
...really shit. A massive turd squeezed out RTD's hack arse.
DAVROS WAS FANTASTIC by Ray Gamma	Jul 5th, 2008 02:01:28 PM
GREAT ACTOR DOING DAVROS LOSING CONTROL
Who will the new companion be... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 02:02:24 PM
Sally Sparrow. Maybe all the people who liked blink will stop going on about it. All the tate haters should now be eating humble pie.
Oh, BTW................ by axcel1	Jul 5th, 2008 02:02:50 PM
I want SPOILERS GALORE, please, give me spoilers, thank you very much.
Oh what a load of crap by Chriss	Jul 5th, 2008 02:03:09 PM
None of the companions died? He doesn't actually regenerate but it goes into the hand? What a load of massive suckage. Why did I expect anything less than RTD. Sure, thanks for bringing the show back, but your writing sucks.
That was utter pap by metaluna	Jul 5th, 2008 02:05:00 PM
For a minute I though I was watching a Brannpn Braga written Star Trek:Voyager episode there was so much pseudo science babble flying around. It was in the end a load of childish rubbish with the Tardis towing (?) the Earth through space at lightspeed or something and RTD using every made up bit of scibabble to undig him out of the holes he wrote himself in. Utter rubbish written by a writer whose just about good enough to write an end of the peir panto. Thank heavens he's gone.
'Hand'-Doctor should have been Eccleston by supertoyslast	Jul 5th, 2008 02:07:08 PM
The original Doctor even said "that's me - when we first met". I wonder if Eccleston was asked to return?
best ever ending by madcapmonster	Jul 5th, 2008 02:09:05 PM
Some will complain that this was not the most fantastic ending to a Doctor Who series ever, some people are also insane, now I am not saying that you would have to be insane not to think this is the best ending ever, but you should seek some help just to be sure
oh dear by grimhandofdoom	Jul 5th, 2008 02:10:48 PM
That was nearly as bad as last years climax. The regeneration was a complete waste and I could see what was happening with Donna a mile off. Also, why did Dalek Kahn go to all that trouble to bring back the Daleks and Davros only to turn against them?
I'm sorry, so sorry...FANTASTIC! by Thunder Child	Jul 5th, 2008 02:14:42 PM
All i want to say is is that over the course of the series, Catherine Tate totally blew all her critics away. She acted the socks off everyone. She was bloody fantastic! Sadly we have Martha and Mickey to 'look forwards too' in Torchwood next year. Just as well its only 5 episodes long.
usual RTD panto by G100	Jul 5th, 2008 02:22:02 PM
Sorry he just doesn't have the writing chops to tie together a massive plot with all those characters without resorting to the cheapest nonsense "explanations" and "solutions" imaginable. Exactly the same as the RTD Master debacle. Started very promising and descended into pure farce by the end. He didn't even have the Balls to kill Donna. I don't expect hard science fiction from Doctor Who and certainly not from RTD but this was just throwing everything at the screen and hoping something sticks. Fantasy panto masquerading as science fiction. I'll admit though by RTD standards it wasn't his worst Ep. (hardly great praise though) Some things were still interesting despite the Pantomime feel that hung over almost everything and whatever crimes against writing RTD may have committed he STILL got Who back on the screens and he always deserves much praise for that least. But watching this final Ep I can truthfully say thank god Moffat is taking over.
New companion: Honeysuckle Weeks by MilesGloriosus	Jul 5th, 2008 02:31:43 PM
Just because I miss seeing her ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs howbiz/article-528706/What-Foy le-say-The-shocking-truth-Hone ysuckle-Weeks-primmest-girl-TV .html
Kind of disappointing by MrJJonz	Jul 5th, 2008 02:33:09 PM
Not a massive Dr Who fan and only generally catch an episode every now and then but the last few episodes had drwan me in and I was quite enjoying it. . .but I just felt this episode was lacking compared to them. The Dr regenerating enough to fix himself? Seemed abit of a cop-out. If the Daleks destroyed the universe what would they do? And the whole someone will die - no they won't. The build up had so much promise. . .
What I loved about bleach's davros... by emeraldboy	Jul 5th, 2008 02:38:59 PM
was that it had hints of palpatine as well as lecter. and He rocked in the Promos. Great performance.
Thank God there was no 'reset button'! by BiggusDickus	Jul 5th, 2008 02:39:34 PM
I was convinced that the beetle thing from a couple of weeks back would be behind it all and that we'd be given another 'Donna goes back in time and sorts it all out' ending. Fair play to RTD. Wa-a-ay better than the awful Master finale last year (why cast John Simms when Derek Jacobi was in the room? WHY???) Anyway, roll on 2010 and please Mister Moffat, no more Billie Piper EVER - those teeth are just far too frightening!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! by Horror Freak	Jul 5th, 2008 02:40:03 PM
and that's all i have until i see the episode much later tonight... i didn't want to lose chris, but i have come to love david and i really really don't want to lose him... very sad...
Review abridged by The Handsome 12th Doctor	Jul 5th, 2008 02:42:08 PM
I've just emailed a review to Herc, and have now realised I could have just posted it here in the talkback instead. So until it pops up later on here's a teaser trailer for it - Oh Lordy..... David Tennant regenerates into David Threlfall..... Verve and fun..... Menace..... Blo w the crap out us..... Brilliant bonkers..... The sexiest thing I've seen on telly..... You'll be amazed!!!
Huh? by AD_Skinner	Jul 5th, 2008 02:44:18 PM
That made no sense whatsoever. Profoundly stupid, predictable and nonsensical garbage. That pitiful crap is in no way, shape or form the programme I know as Doctor Who. It's the anti-Doctor Who.
luckily I'd prepared myself for the letdown. by TinSpider	Jul 5th, 2008 02:44:25 PM
It was great up until Davies realised he had to start explaining stuff then it fell apart. I pissed myself at the earth being towed through space and the only effect it had was to make a few papers fly about.. maybe the odd cupboard fall over.
We were right... by Charlie & Tex	Jul 5th, 2008 02:49:28 PM
...about the whole "splitting the Doctor thing" and one of them living happily ever after. We're only right every now and again, so we;re entitled to feel a little smug when it happens...
Absolute balls by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 5th, 2008 02:54:24 PM
RTD managed to completely obliterate Rose's storyline and Donna's storyline in just under 5 minutes. Way to go.
should have seen Adric... by Deak the Geek	Jul 5th, 2008 02:54:37 PM
in the montage...would have been cool
Errrrrrrrrrrrrm Liked it by TheTaf	Jul 5th, 2008 02:56:24 PM
BEWARE SOME SPOILERS OK so the regeneration thing was a total cop out!! But I was kidding myself thinking they would change the Doctor. I had heard rumours about DT in a blue suit and they turned out to be true. But the two doctor’s thing didn’t really have the effect I wanted. Maybe because of budget restrictions but I really wanted them to play off each other more. What did work for me was DOCTOR DONNA!! I'm gna put my hands up and say I was a doubter when I first saw Catherine Tate as the Docs Companion but "DIDNT SHE DO WELL". I mean she got better with each episode and was at her best in the finale. Well Done Catherine Good JOB!! The scene in the tardis with everyone was Brilliant and the ending WICKED!! Bringing it back to Bad Wolf Bay!! The Docs Heart break, 2nd time in the same place!! WOW!! AWESOME I liked that rose got a doctor to keep and grow old with!! IN fact I liked a lot of things about this episode!! Pretty much everything bar the regeneration cop out!! RTD no matter what people say, you bought back DOCTOR WHO and I Love You for it. People may talk about other writers being better than you etc but the fact is they wouldn’t be writing Shit!! If you didn’t bring the show back. From All Doctor Who fans THANK YOU!! Wish you all the best in the future!! (Hope he comes back to pen a few eps here and there!!)
David Tennant got a sweet deal now by Evansvisualarts	Jul 5th, 2008 03:02:32 PM
David Tennant got a sweet deal now because even when his doctor finally regenerates into a new body he can still come back into the show and the fact he gets older won't matter because he exists in only that body in the other universe with Rose. I bet you he will pop up in the show long after the tenth doctor has gone..............unless the human/time lord doctor becomes a nemesis, all that knowledge but with the human destructive streak to taint him, make him a bit like the Master. Who knows?
If he had of regenrated... by Evansvisualarts	Jul 5th, 2008 03:03:31 PM
If he had of regenrated then I think Sean Bean, old Mr Sharpe, would of been a good new doctor
Mike Tyson for the new Doctor by AhnoldsBicep	Jul 5th, 2008 03:06:43 PM
"Usually I don't let women into the Tardis unless I fornicate with them... so you should leave, unless you want to... you know"
I still don't get ... by reaper28	Jul 5th, 2008 03:07:44 PM
is there or isn't there a Time Beetle still on Donna? In last week's episode, the assistant at The Shadow Proclamation said there was something on her back. And what about Dalek Kaan's prediction that "The Doctor's most faithful companion will die" ... or was that Donna even though she didn't actually die? Totally agree with Mr Saxon: Bernard Cribbins was superb and had me reaching for the Kleenex - and not in a "Tingly Nether Regions" way either ... Mark my words, we haven't seen the last of Donna. I'd love to see her go completely batshit (Jokershit?) from the Doctor's mind crammed into hers. Now that would be very cool.
Not shit - but not very good either. by Lloytron	Jul 5th, 2008 03:08:33 PM
SPOILER WARNING This was OK but a let down after the set up and the previous episodes. IMO the Threefold Man thing was a good idea but handled badly. Donna touches the hand (Which she didn't actually touch, cos it was in a glass container) and she gets the Doctor's mind (which needs to be activated by being shot later on?!) and he becomes Human? WTF? Good parts summarised: Bernard Cribbins performance. The Osterhagen Key turning out to be something more than a rubbish reset button. Davros's confontation. Daleks talking in German. The mexican standoff with everyone ready to make the ultimate sacrifice. The Threefold man idea. K-9! The rubbish parts: The Threefold man in practice. The fact that The Doctor hated his human self for killing all the Daleks and conveniently ignored the fact that Rose already did the same thing in the first series. Towing the Earth and everyone on it wobbling about a bit. Davros breaking the mexican standoff by just teleporting everyone (including Martha in an underground base) to the ship. The last second escape of the Tardis.
The Moon by Lloytron	Jul 5th, 2008 03:13:57 PM
I just remembered, the moon was still in orbit... wouldn't that have spun off somewhere? Oh and what is it with the transdimensional teleporter that you activate just by pressing a button, and it either takes you across the unverse, or just through the door on the right if you are in mortal peril. Needs 30 mins to recharge too. Nifty! No nasty rifts in time and space either.
Like it Lots (SPOILERS) by 2LeggedFreak	Jul 5th, 2008 03:14:43 PM
Would have been a bit better without Rose but then I've always had a bit of a downer on the lovey dovey side of this Who. Thought the Donna thing was tragic and worse than her dying and Bernard Cribbens and Catherine Tate were brilliant. As long as they leave this alone and don't go back later to fix it ( a la Bad Wolf Bay 2)

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