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Who is the ANTICHRIST? Dafoe, Gainsbourg or Von Trier?

First by coolhanderik	Aug 13th, 2008 02:35:17 AM
yay
by dagonet_	Aug 13th, 2008 02:36:01 AM
Dafoe definately is creepy.
loved manderlay by s0nicdeathmonkey	Aug 13th, 2008 02:39:40 AM
damn good. watching dogville tonight.
Dafoe..... by Dogma_Jedi	Aug 13th, 2008 02:39:57 AM
From misguided Christ.. to antichrist.
William by a rolling stone	Aug 13th, 2008 02:41:10 AM
Dafoe is da bomb. Boondock Saints. Need I say more?
As long as it's not some Dogma 95 BS... by SpencerTrilby	Aug 13th, 2008 02:41:52 AM
it could work as a movie, and not some sterile experimentatin. Color me intrigued.
I thought Lucas was the antichrist? by Xiphos_2	Aug 13th, 2008 02:53:46 AM
At least that's what I've learned from Talkbacks.
Old, old, old news... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 13th, 2008 02:57:09 AM
...I'm still waiting for the catch. Von Trier is always...Interesting, at least.
dogma jedi by joet88	Aug 13th, 2008 03:28:34 AM
good one : ) personally i think von trier is an asshole, and not the good kind. This sounds cool, but he pisses me off. If you've seen his Five Obstructions you'll understand how much of a thoughtless self-righteous jerk he is. But I haven't seen too many of his movies, who knows, maybe he'll grow on me : )
I feel the same way about Von Trier by Rain_Dog	Aug 13th, 2008 03:57:57 AM
as I do about Michael Haneke - while I think they're both capable of producing extremely effective, even compelling work, I'd very much like to punch them both in the cock. They seem to me to embody the kind of sneering, pompous Euro-intelligentsia douchebaggery that some people tend to attribute to all Europeans. Mind you, I'm a firm believer in separating people from their work, and this sounds like it could be very cool. For a skeptical sonofabitch, I loves me some Biblical horror action.
"Action" in the general sense... by Rain_Dog	Aug 13th, 2008 03:59:19 AM
It's not like I think this is going to be an action/horror movie genre-wise.
a rolling stone... by johnnyrandom	Aug 13th, 2008 04:41:06 AM
..."Boondock Saints. Need I say more?" Yes. The Boondock Saints was utter shit.
I think Bill Sadler says creepy as good as Dafoe by filmcoyote	Aug 13th, 2008 04:47:51 AM
Man that dude creeps me out. I saw him in Eagle Eye recently, and he's not even in a creepy role, and he still put me on edge whenever he's on screen. I've found him creepy ever since Die Hard 2.
Sadler tramuatized me, as well by QuandraX	Aug 13th, 2008 05:46:09 AM
I grew up a fat kid, because exercising was never the same after that scene in Die Hard II.
Filmcoyote by Midnightxpress	Aug 13th, 2008 05:46:12 AM
Have you seen The Mist? Sadler's turn from regular joe to xian Nutjob is as spooky as anything in the film. Thou if I'd almost been eaten alive by interdimensional spiders I'd probably go insane.
Midnight by filmcoyote	Aug 13th, 2008 05:58:45 AM
I have, yeah, he was great in that. I bought it on DVD a while back from the States as it seemed to never be coming to the UK. Then it came out and i was going to go and see it on the big screen but i was in Spain the week it released and the next week my local cinema had already taken it off. No doubt to play some studio crap.
Trust me. Roland Emmerich is the Anti-Christ.. by beefywhore	Aug 13th, 2008 07:33:57 AM
and Renny Harlin is the False Prophet...yeah, that makes sense.
The Antichrist isn't Obama? by EyeofPolyphemus	Aug 13th, 2008 07:41:00 AM
I keed, I keed. I'll be Raptured anyway, so it doesn't matter....
Yeah.... too soon. by Dogma_Jedi	Aug 13th, 2008 08:49:51 AM

Defoe=creepy by zombiwolf	Aug 13th, 2008 09:00:03 AM
Say 'Fuck me Bobby Peru!'
behold, a pale rider approached and his name was Michael Bay by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Aug 13th, 2008 09:11:39 AM
"Shoot for the edit," he cried and the heavens were torn asunder with quick cuts and avid farts.
I like most of Von Trier's work. by Knuckleduster	Aug 13th, 2008 09:24:10 AM
Breaking the Waves, Dancer in the Dark and Dogville are all great films. Still haven't seen Manderlay. I'll give any movie he makes a shot. And yes, The Boondock Saints is a horrible excuse of a film. Not to mention incredibly lame.
What? Antipope? by Banzai Rootskibango	Aug 13th, 2008 10:05:30 AM
...welcome to...Molvania!
needs some Nicholas Cage by Spandau Belly	Aug 13th, 2008 10:19:54 AM
Cage and Dafoe together on screen in a Von Tier movie about the antichrist might be more madness than imaginable.
WHO'LL BE PLAYING GEORGE W. BUSH? by BringingSexyBack	Aug 13th, 2008 10:32:41 AM
Check this out: ... WASHINGTON DC -- According to freelance journalist Wayne Madsden, "George W Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs and his constant references to 'evil doers,' in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ." Madsen, a Washington-based writer and columnist, who often writes for Counterpunch, says that people close to the pope claim that amid these concerns, the pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament. Before he became pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel." The pope worked tirelessly to convince leaders of nations on the UN Security Council to oppose Bush's war resolution on Iraq. Vatican sources claim they had not seen the pope more animated and determined since he fell ill to Parkinson's Disease. In the end, the pope did convince the leaders of Mexico, Chile, Cameroon and Guinea to oppose the U.S. resolution. Madsen contends that "Bush is a dangerous right-wing ideologue who couples his political fanaticism with a neo-Christian blood cult." ... Is it any wonder that this Pope died during the reign of the Bush Antichrist, and Joseph Ratzinger both a friend of the Bush Family (he was an organizational colleague of Jeb Bush) was annointed the new Pope? Not to mention their common links to the Nazi regime? Open your eyes people. Now is Willem playing a good guy or bad guy?
CORRECTION: THAT WAS NEIL BUSH, NOT JEB by BringingSexyBack	Aug 13th, 2008 10:52:57 AM
who was a friend of Ratzinger's.
none of the above by Mutant Leader	Aug 13th, 2008 10:56:36 AM
According to what I have read on the Net, many Bible scholars and historians believe it to have been the Roman emperor Nero, the guy who fiddled while Rome burned. And he's been dead for countless ages, of course. So I think we can all relax. :)
Hey BSB.... by The_Regular_Guy	Aug 13th, 2008 11:11:34 AM
You sir, are an idiot.
Whatever-ocalypse by Kenobi-fan	Aug 13th, 2008 11:14:20 AM
When is someone going to do a really violent-explosive-judgement day Return-of-Jesus movie with all the trimmings: angels, demons, earthquakes, lightning, swords, sheilds, dogs & cats living together...the works! I'm picturing Michael Bay goofiness to include slo-mo of Jesus' Sword of Truth wacking away at all the unbelievers, people and demons alike. Why are 'the celestial powers' depicted so small scale all the time? Ooooh, they spooke, torture, and kill a few folks - big deal! Our normal world violence level is more horrific than this. I mean, don't these 'powers' run the Universe? ('Left Behind' was dumb...and so was Damien, in all his guises.) Bring it!
REGULAR GUY by BringingSexyBack	Aug 13th, 2008 11:29:15 AM
What are you, a Satan lover or something?
W is not the antichrist cause all religion is bullshit by V'Shael	Aug 13th, 2008 11:34:48 AM
Dipshit.
Lemme Guess by malpaso	Aug 13th, 2008 11:41:40 AM
The "haunted island" is the good ole USA...and we're gonna get hammered with "America is evil" metaphors for 2 hours on a spare soundstage?
No, I'm a regular guy... by The_Regular_Guy	Aug 13th, 2008 12:06:25 PM
Just stop spouting off about shit you know nothing about. I can copy and paste too.
Please to meet you... by Kenobi-fan	Aug 13th, 2008 12:36:19 PM
I don't love Satan but I don't think he's been given his due...cinematically speaking. Given all the trauma he's supposed to have inflicted on our planet, you'd think we could have something decent to waste $10 and 2-hours on. Ha!
Atheist, Shcmatheist by Kenobi-fan	Aug 13th, 2008 12:52:40 PM
Probably true, maybe Mel Gibson could make a 'good' Anti-christ movie. Yeah... Mel is the perfect candidate for that type of pic. I think I'm going to write him right now, mabye send him a bottle of whisky too. I like it!
BringingSexyBack... by Banzai Rootskibango	Aug 13th, 2008 01:26:02 PM
...loves his kool aid.
c'mon, folks by fivezero	Aug 13th, 2008 02:01:18 PM
the REAL reason you click into this thread is because you thought you saw Vern Troyer.
Prosthetics need not apply. by halberd	Aug 13th, 2008 03:01:52 PM
For Willem Dafoe could possibly be capable of the scariest facial expressions in film history.
BAH! by VictorVonDoom	Aug 13th, 2008 03:18:55 PM
No one has the gonads to be the Antichrist, save DOOM!
breaking the waves was pretty good by Stengah	Aug 13th, 2008 03:55:45 PM
imo.
FIRST!!! by Autobot Optimus Prime	Aug 13th, 2008 06:48:15 PM
Damn. Missed it again.
Von Trier should have directed Dark Knight by Psalmolive	Aug 13th, 2008 10:14:49 PM
It would have been better acted, had a better story, better ruthless exploitation and devastated American audiences to commit mass suicide in the theater: that should be the goal of all movies.
A Rolling Stone by Zorak5	Aug 13th, 2008 10:29:36 PM
Agree completely. Dafoe's performance in Boondock Saints is tremendous.
Von Trier+those actors+Satan=GOLD by reflecto	Aug 13th, 2008 10:39:42 PM
Where can that go wrong? WHERE?
Dafoe was the only good thing.. by Harold-Sherbort	Aug 14th, 2008 12:01:55 AM
..about Boondock Saints. That movie was terrible!! Whatever happened to Norman Rheedus?
octagonproplex... by dogstardude	Aug 14th, 2008 03:06:58 AM
Seriously man, check out Von Trier's "The Element of Crime", "Epidemic", "Europa" or his tv series "The Kingdom". He may be an asshole, but he most certainly does know how to make a gorgeous and amazingly well-made film. And seriously guys, he only made one dogme piece, "Dogville" was pretty much Brecht as film and it was fucking hard to pull off. Just look at the behind the scenes stuff.
Obviously "The Idiots" was his dogme movie by dogstardude	Aug 14th, 2008 03:07:55 AM
Just in case my appalling grammar and syntax made that point confusing.
Von by Drunken Rage	Aug 14th, 2008 09:02:42 AM

on by Drunken Rage	Aug 14th, 2008 09:02:56 AM

Von Trier is one of the truly greats by Drunken Rage	Aug 14th, 2008 09:07:29 AM
He elicits amazing performances from his actors, his directing is second-to-none. And yes, Peter Greenaway is another truly great filmmaker. Wish they'd both do more. Sorry about the triple post.
i've finally been pulled out... by gasolinedrawers	Aug 14th, 2008 12:25:26 PM
I've been reading this stuff for years and years. Now I have to speak up. Just made an account so that I can chime in. Von Trier is amazing...and hilarious! I admit that he's pushed the "suffering woman" theme further than it needed to go, but he's really funny. The person who mentioned "The Five Obstructions" and said he was a jerk...I just don't get it. It's been years since I watched that movie, but I just remembered being charmed by his overenthusiastic bumbling and early morning drinking. Dogme95 was a big game, not a serious statement. "The Celebration" was the first Dogme95 movie and it was great. Harmony Korine is irritating to me, but his Dogme95 confession for "Julian Donkey-Boy" was comedic gold. Even if you hate VonTrier, "The Kingdom" series is about as good as it gets. I saw them in theatres, and recently watched them now that number two is out on dvd. His Rod Serling style closing statements are wonderful (and they didn't play in the theatrical runs...so that was a new experience for me). I can't explain it well enough, but he's way too talented to be blown off because he appears to be pompous. With that, maybe I'll jump in on another talkback someday. Nice to meet you folks, finally.
for the OCTAGONPROPLEX... by gasolinedrawers	Aug 14th, 2008 12:46:36 PM
before I bow out of this business, let me take a shot at this jackass. To anyone that read his *(corrected grammer) - sorry. Idiot::: grammer/grammar, shinning/shining, religeous/religious, catholism/catholicism. Good enough. Still, if you're from a non-english speaking country...it's forgiven. Your shit taste is definitely not forgiveeen.

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